Headlight improvements
Headlight improvements
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whatever

Original Poster:

2,174 posts

292 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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I don't know if it's just the angle of the car and sitting lower, but I've always thought the lights on the cerb are a bit crap. And yes, it has got the uprated (overrated) bulbs.

However, call me an old stick-in-the-mud, but I don't really fancy going for the full-on multi-lens pod thing, if that's the right technical term.

Is there any way to retain the original single, large headlight lens but fit a gas discharge or xenon thing in there. Hang on, I don't even know which is which. Which is the best, and which is the one that looks "blue-ish" and really annoys me.

Tell you what, someone tell me what light technology I want and then tell me if it's feasible to stuff it behind the single large lens thing.

Clive?

>>> Edited by whatever on Friday 11th October 22:22

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

290 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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I think all you can do is try different bulbs , ive got phillips vision bulbs in the ZX6R and they are excellent compared to the standard halogen bulbs

>> Edited by dennisthemenace on Friday 11th October 22:20

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

282 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Gas discharge lamps are expensive in the region of £500-£800 depending on who and where fits them,they will fit in to your existing lamps as its only the bulbs that are different,the wiring and two power transformers fitted behind the lights.

mel-S3

176 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th October 2002
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I've just ordered a brighter lights kit for my S3 from mod-wise.com (it's on their website). They make an extra piece of wiring loom to upgrade headlight performance on all TVR's. Claiming an extra 25 watts are achieved at each headlight. This doesn't sound to bad for the price of £29.99 they charge for the kit. I’m also going to upgrade to Philips bulbs. Hope this improves the horrendous lights on the S.

Melvin

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

290 months

Saturday 12th October 2002
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try this site www.h-i-d.co.uk not cheap though

Guillotine

5,516 posts

286 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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mod wise will work...in the same way that a car (or white van) with one headlamp out, has one very bright dazzling light left (usually right in your rear view mirror)! the current is shared by both lamps normally, but giving another supply from the starter motor feed WILL give you an improvement of around 20%. giving you two brighter lights!
Xenon is a gas which alows a filiament to burn more brightly. a step up from halogen, which does the same.
gas discharge uses an arc light as opposed to a filliant light, which can burn MUCH brighter. they also need a lot more current/voltage so an upgrade is required in wiring / supply vastly incresing costs.
hope this helps
by the way, check your lamp lens. if its got a whitish haze and a dull reflector, its probably got a film of grp dust on it. by removing, cleanig and upgrading to philips vision plus - i atleast DOUBLED the light output on my griff wihout using the mod-wise kit giving very usable lighting (if not in the gas discharge league).

zertec

499 posts

305 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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...gas discharge uses an arc light as opposed to a filliant light, which can burn MUCH brighter. they also need a lot more current/voltage so an upgrade is required in wiring / supply vastly incresing costs

You're wrong about the wiring and current.
Check out this thread:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&h=0&t=19084
I'll send you a PDF file on HID if you e-mail me.
info@zertec.com

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

290 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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How does it work?

When a voltage of 23,000 Volts is applied across the HID gas capsule, it initiates an arc of ionised Xenon gas, which heats the enclosed metallic salts to vaporisation point. Once vaporisation of the salts has occurred, then the HID capsule produces its full light output.



It only takes around 4 seconds to initiate the ignition process. Once this has happened and the HID capsule has reached full intensity, the igniter automatically shuts off.

The HID inverter then maintains the correct operating maintenance voltage, drawing only 35 Watts of power - yet producing 3 times the light output of traditional 55 - 60 Watt Halogen wire filament bulbs.


Guillotine

5,516 posts

286 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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what i said about the additional wiring,was refering to the "ballast box" or voltage amplification gear.
very high voltages will be required, though possibly not at significant currents, to give the arc required. dennis seems to know more than i do - but i was giving a leymans descrption of the process.
as for costs...i've seen up to £500 for my griff, and i would call that expensive!
still they are vastly superior and look cool so if you have the cash...

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

290 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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When ive got the cash im toying with the idea of fitting some to the ZX6R , only problem is finding somewhere to fit all the gubbins

whatever

Original Poster:

2,174 posts

292 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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Thanks guys, very helpful. So I guess it is possible to retain my lamp shape and move up a rung or two on the evolutionary ladder of light. I suppose I'll have to dig around a bit...