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In an effort to make her run a little cooler I plan to drain the existing coolant, flush out and replace with de-ionized water and Water Wetter. Where should I drain the coolant from and what ratio of Wetter to water is recommended. Also has anyone had any positive results using this product.
simonkd said:
In an effort to make her run a little cooler I plan to drain the existing coolant, flush out and replace with de-ionized water and Water Wetter. Where should I drain the coolant from and what ratio of Wetter to water is recommended. Also has anyone had any positive results using this product.
Read the back of the bottle!
I think it says for best results 25 - 50%
Joolz sold me 2 bottles of the water wetter when I refilled my system. What ratio that is, I dont know, but its a lot less than the 25/50%.
Does it work?...I think it lowered the temp very slightly, but its hard to know exactly. Anything that's supposed to help though, has got to be good.
Does it work?...I think it lowered the temp very slightly, but its hard to know exactly. Anything that's supposed to help though, has got to be good.
cerber450 said:
but its a lot less than the 25/50%.
not if you want it to work the way its meant to!
READ THE BOTTLE!
Still think you are wrong, sorry.
See below:-
Water Wetter Mix Ratios
USE DIRECTIONS
One 12 ounce bottle treats 12-16 quarts of water or a 50% ethylene or propylene glycol solution. In smaller cooling systems, use 4-5 caps per quart. Add directly through the cooling system fill cap into the radiator or into the overflow tank. Do not open a cooling system while hot. For best protection for aluminum, replenish or replace every 15,000 miles. The anti-scaling ingredients in Red Line WaterWetter allow its use with ordinary tap water. However, using with distilled or deionized water will accomplish some scale removal in the cylinder head area. For maximum temperature reductions use the most water and the least antifreeze possible to prevent freezing in your climate. Even in summertime the use of air-conditioning can blow freezing air through the heater and cause freezing of the heater core unless approximately 20% antifreeze is used. Red Line WaterWetter is available in 12 ounce containers.
(Quart = quarter of a gallon = 0.95litres = 1.6 pints)
BENEFIT SUMMARY
Doubles the wetting ability of water
Improves heat transfer
Reduces cylinder head temperatures
May allow more spark advance for increased torque
Reduces rust, corrosion and electrolysis of all metals
Provides long term corrosion protection
Cleans and lubricates water pump seals
Prevents foaming
Reduces cavitation corrosion
Complexes with hard water to reduce scale
Red Line WaterWetter® is designed to provide improved metal wetting and excellent corrosion inhibition when added to plain water or a glycol coolant. The most poorly maintained system in an automobile is usually the cooling system. Maintenance is quite simple and only required once each year, but most vehicle owners never routinely change the coolant or replenish the corrosion inhibitors which are required for trouble-free operation. Proper cooling system maintenance is very critical for most modern engines which utilize more aluminum. Aluminum has a very high corrosion potential, even higher than zinc, which is very widely used as a sacrificial anode. The only property which enables aluminum to be used in a cooling system is that it will form protective films under the proper conditions which will prevent the uncontrolled corrosive attack of acids or bases. Poor aluminum corrosion inhibition will cause the dissolution of aluminum at the heat rejection surfaces, weakening the cooling system walls and water pump casing and weakening the head gasket mating surfaces. These corrosion products will then form deposits on the lower temperature surfaces such as in radiator tubes which have very poor heat transfer properties, causing a significant reduction in the cooling ability of the entire system. Red Line WaterWetter® will provide the proper corrosion inhibition for all cooling system metals, including aluminum, cast iron, steel, copper, brass, and lead.
Water has twice the heat transfer capability when compared to 50% glycol antifreeze/coolant in water. Most passenger automobiles have a cooling system designed to reject sufficient heat under normal operating conditions using a 50/50 glycol solution in water. However, in racing applications, the use of water and WaterWetter® will enable the use of smaller radiator systems, which means less frontal drag, and it will also reduce cylinder head temperatures, even when compared to water alone, which means more spark advance may be used to improve engine torque.
Kojak,
Your miss reading it the one I have in my hand states similar to your post BUT depending on the type of application for best performance use 50/50 water to water wetter then goes on about the anti freeze requirement.
I have a sample one sent to us 2 years ago and we never used it due to it being useless in small quantities.
Point being one or two little bottles of water wetter are going to make feck all difference in our cars.
Your miss reading it the one I have in my hand states similar to your post BUT depending on the type of application for best performance use 50/50 water to water wetter then goes on about the anti freeze requirement.
I have a sample one sent to us 2 years ago and we never used it due to it being useless in small quantities.
Point being one or two little bottles of water wetter are going to make feck all difference in our cars.
gazzab said:
When are you going to spill the beanz on your latest engine spec? 5ltr? Dry sump? Nos? etc....?
I was hoping to be finished today and started running it in but I've had to make new brackets for the additional oil cooler and the new radiator and I'm still awaiting some other little bits.
So far I've got Tuscan race heads honed, ported and flowed and to the red rose spec with all the 5.0L goodies and the NOS system still being used too........just in case its not fast enough!
kojak said:
kojak said:
If it was mixed 50/50, it would cost over £300 to fill a cerbera engine ...based on 12 litres..and my maths being correct.
(approx 36 ounces to a litre (3 bottles) x 6.
£18 /bottle.
Not cost effective then?
not really.
Having a thick moment here chaps, I read that you need to add the water wetter to a normal 50/50 water/anti freeze mix. Which for your 12 ltrs would be the whole of one bottle (approx). As to its benefits after reading the blurb here www.redlineoil.com/whitePaper/17.pdf I can see that it brings engine temperature down a tad, but only equivilent to a weaker anti freeze water mix
. My reading of it is if you run the weakest anti freeze water solution recommended (30%??) then it is loads better than a 50/50 with water wetter, or did I miss something
. Harry
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