Which watch as short term investment/safe
Which watch as short term investment/safe
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Jamiecool

Original Poster:

56 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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I’ve got spare funds sitting that won’t be needed for at least a couple of years for a project.

It’s sat in the bank doing nothing and I wondered whether it might be an idea to at least get a few nice watches then look to trade back out when needed.

Question is…

If you had to pick three watches all sub 40k that you think would at least hold their value what would they be?

EX51GE R

1,643 posts

231 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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I'd say an f p journe, but the wait list is 4 years.

Jamescrs

5,768 posts

86 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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Would probably buy something like a Rolex Explorer and keep my fingers crossed.

That will cost you around 9k alone.

The other one which may be worth considering is the Tudor Blackbay Harrods edition. If that gets discontinued it will rise in value but again its "if".

I dont think buying a watch or 3 as an investment is a particularly good idea personally.

If you can buy a Rolex at an AD for RRP then maybe but buying grey market now is going to be a gamble.

MarkJS

2,050 posts

168 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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The only route IMO is Rolex (with the exception of Datejust/Explorer’s) at RRP from main dealers but I think you missed that boat a long time ago.

GTEYE

2,357 posts

231 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Buy a watch to enjoy, but don’t buy one as an investment.

If you could walk into a Rolex dealer and come out with a Submariner then maybe give it a go. But you can’t.

Cryptocurrency seems to be where it’s at, but that’s an even bigger minefield.

Deep

2,473 posts

264 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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MarkJS said:
The only route IMO is Rolex (with the exception of Datejust/Explorer’s) at RRP from main dealers but I think you missed that boat a long time ago.
Why with the exception of Explorers? The Explorer 2 fetches a healthy premium over RRP.

Pupp

12,819 posts

293 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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The Exp II is presently sought after but , for ages, was the one you could buy from an AD along with the Milgauss.

I’ve got both; I like both… neither were an ‘investment’ however

Caddyshack

13,598 posts

227 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Doesn’t sound a very safe investment punt at all. Big gamble yes, it may pay off but high risk

Bobajobbob

1,559 posts

117 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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It probably doesn’t get much safer than a Rolex Submariner.

MarkJS

2,050 posts

168 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Deep said:
MarkJS said:
The only route IMO is Rolex (with the exception of Datejust/Explorer’s) at RRP from main dealers but I think you missed that boat a long time ago.
Why with the exception of Explorers? The Explorer 2 fetches a healthy premium over RRP.
The Explorer I then. Pretty easy to pick up and not a particularly safe place for anyone’s money.

reapercushions

7,308 posts

205 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Etherium.


Deep

2,473 posts

264 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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MarkJS said:
The Explorer I then. Pretty easy to pick up and not a particularly safe place for anyone’s money.
Ok, you've completely lost me.

Are you saying that the OP should buy an Explorer I because it's NOT a safe place for his money??

Deep

2,473 posts

264 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Pupp said:
The Exp II is presently sought after but , for ages, was the one you could buy from an AD along with the Milgauss.

I’ve got both; I like both… neither were an ‘investment’ however
You may have not bought as an 'investment' but the Explorer has turned into one. White faced Exp II sells in the grey market for £12k

MarkJS

2,050 posts

168 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Deep said:
MarkJS said:
The Explorer I then. Pretty easy to pick up and not a particularly safe place for anyone’s money.
Ok, you've completely lost me.

Are you saying that the OP should buy an Explorer I because it's NOT a safe place for his money??
Why don’t you read my original post?

No, I’m not saying that. Obviously.

traffman

2,263 posts

230 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Like most have said , if you could walk into a dealer and pick up a Steel Sports Rolex at retail , then you would have made at least 3 thousand on a Submariner 41 mm no date. Maybe a little bit more. However you could stick your name down on as many lists as you can , and hope for the best.
I am on the list for a 41mm sub , ive bought previously though from that particular AD.

I paid 11350 for a Sub date 41mm. And these are selling now for between 11 and 12500. Its a difficult question because if it were that easy everyone would be doing it. And they are ! The grey market is awash with sports Rolex 4grand or so over retail.

You could invest in a stocks and shares account such as Parmenion , Ive made about 6.5 grand in just under a year with one of those.
Invest a bit and buy a nice sports Rolex. They are only going up!

NCC

425 posts

305 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Anything truly investable isn’t going to be available to you as a straight ‘walk-in’ purchase. You’ll need a healthy relationship with an AD and even then a lengthy wait is still likely.

Personally, I’d be looking at investing any excess cash in a proper investment vehicle. The watch market is far too fickle and with the exception of those unavailable purchases at RRP from Rolex/PP/AP, it’s too much of a gamble.

Anyway, watches are for wearing and enjoying, not investment opportunities.

All IMHO obviously.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

183 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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If an item is a guaranteed investment, especially in the short term, the clever money has already moved in. Buy something you might enjoy that ‘might’ have investment value, and that way you can’t really lose. Whether it’s a watch, a classic scooter, an old Hasselblad… doesn’t matter. If you have that much to spend, enjoy it. You’ll be dead in a few summers whatever you do.

sparkyhx

4,200 posts

225 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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with the possible exception of Rolex - nothing new will be an investment they all lose money - look at 2nd hand quality and keep a few years.
FP Journe, Glashutte Original, Jaeger Le Coultre, AP, Lange & Sohne, Patek etc

Edited by sparkyhx on Tuesday 20th July 12:52

GCH

4,133 posts

223 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Your main options on that front are rolex, patek (5167, 5711, 5712) and, surprisingly, most hodinkee limited releases.

The sh*tshow that is rolex games is discussed in depth elsewhere. Patek is highly variable depending on locale but your chances of a 5711 are very very slim indeed....
The latter do your research first when announced and then fastest finger first.

On the flip side, there are a lot of watches to NOT buy new for investment purposes. These you can buy used after someone else has taken the initial hit however, and you will make your money back after having worn and enjoyed them for a few years, but thats not really an investment as such is it.

JapanRed

1,589 posts

132 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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I’m an Omega guy so won’t comment on other manufacturers.

The first 2 Snoopies will hold value. The Tokyo Olympic Games will hold too, as will the Apollo Soyuz ltd edition meteorite. Apollo 11 50th and Tintin all will too.