Ben & Jerry's to stop sales in Palestinian territories
Ben & Jerry's to stop sales in Palestinian territories
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g3org3y

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22,141 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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article said:
Ben & Jerry's has said it will stop selling its ice cream in Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem.

The US company said sales "in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT)" were "inconsistent with our values".

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said the move was "morally wrong" and would prove to be "financially wrong".

The West Bank and East Jerusalem have been under Israeli control since the 1967 Middle East war.

More than 600,000 Jews live in about 140 settlements there. Most of the international community considers the settlements illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.

The ice cream maker said the move reflected the concerns of "fans and trusted partners".
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57893161

Edited by g3org3y on Wednesday 21st July 05:44

irc

9,385 posts

160 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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But happy to sell their overpriced junk food in Saudia Arabia. A beacon of human rights.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/saudi-arabia-human-righ...

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Sales were well down except local favourites ‘baked hamaska’ and ‘rocket rain cookie dough twist’

irc

9,385 posts

160 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Ben and Jerry believe in gay marriage. But sell ice cream in Saudi where homosexuals can be executed.

https://www.benjerry.co.uk/values/issues-we-care-a...

105.4

4,214 posts

95 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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irc said:
Ben and Jerry believe in gay marriage. But sell ice cream in Saudi where homosexuals can be executed.

https://www.benjerry.co.uk/values/issues-we-care-a...
The only standards The Left often has is double standards.

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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105.4 said:
irc said:
Ben and Jerry believe in gay marriage. But sell ice cream in Saudi where homosexuals can be executed.

https://www.benjerry.co.uk/values/issues-we-care-a...
The only standards The Left often has is double standards.
Are Unilever lefties? Seems unlikely.

What about other multinationals like Nestlé and P and G? Are they part of ‘the left’ also?

Captain Raymond Holt

12,423 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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irc said:
Ben and Jerry believe in gay marriage. But sell ice cream in Saudi where homosexuals can be executed.

https://www.benjerry.co.uk/values/issues-we-care-a...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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105.4 said:
irc said:
Ben and Jerry believe in gay marriage. But sell ice cream in Saudi where homosexuals can be executed.

https://www.benjerry.co.uk/values/issues-we-care-a...
The only standards The Left often has is double standards.
I think we can safety assume that multinational business is generally only interested in sales and brand image, and their actions are virtually zero to do with Left or Right leanings.

Biker 1

8,406 posts

143 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Presumably they sell their wares in Israel? I thought many of these brands went along with the Arab boycott, meaning they would sell in the territories, but not in Israel 'proper'(???) Perhaps B & J's marketing department have got the wrong end of the stick?

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Biker 1 said:
Presumably they sell their wares in Israel? I thought many of these brands went along with the Arab boycott, meaning they would sell in the territories, but not in Israel 'proper'(???) Perhaps B & J's marketing department have got the wrong end of the stick?
Unilever and some other businesses stopped using Israeli factories in the occupied territories a while ago also.

Seems Arabs and Israelis are both ok it’s maybe just the occupied territories that are the issue?

Dagnir

2,116 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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More empty virtue signalling... hardly surprising.


I stopped buying BnJ's a couple of years ago after one of
their other 'progressive' campaigns.


The arrogance of these people. You make ice cream. Shut up and make ice cream ffs. Stop patronising people.

irc

9,385 posts

160 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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" We will continue to work with relevant nonprofit partners to build public support, add our voice and celebrate the expansion of marriage equality to new states and countries."

Wonder how their campaign for marriage equality in Saudi is going then?

irc

9,385 posts

160 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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El stovey said:
Are Unilever lefties? Seems unlikely.

What about other multinationals like Nestlé and P and G? Are they part of ‘the left’ also?
Similar hypocrites. Like when multinationals updated their logosfor Pride Month. Except in the middle east. The have high values where it isn't losing them cash.





A Winner Is You

25,826 posts

251 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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irc said:
" We will continue to work with relevant nonprofit partners to build public support, add our voice and celebrate the expansion of marriage equality to new states and countries."

Wonder how their campaign for marriage equality in Saudi is going then?
Anyone know the Palestinian position on LGBT rights?

speedy_thrills

7,850 posts

267 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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What am I supposed to take from this media stunt, Palestinians don't deserve ice cream? scratchchin

Chris944_S2

2,055 posts

247 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Dagnir said:
More empty virtue signalling... hardly surprising.


I stopped buying BnJ's a couple of years ago after one of
their other 'progressive' campaigns.


The arrogance of these people. You make ice cream. Shut up and make ice cream ffs. Stop patronising people.
Many companies market their products to a specific audience in order to gain market share with that group. Whether the message given and the reality are the same is irrelevant, it’s just a matter for them to advertise among a target audience.

With regards to B&J, they have always marketed themselves to a younger, liberal audience.
They know perfectly well that it will not appeal to others such as racists or homophobes, but they chose to leave that market to other ice cream makers.

Having a certain image among their target audience allows them to ask a premium compared to an unknown ice-cream maker who “shuts up and just makes ice cream”. Selling less ice cream at a higher price might well be more profitable than selling bigger volumes with tiny margins.
Being vocal is part of their business model, and it’s irrelevant whether their message is true or not, so long as their target audience is convinced by it they will be willing to pay more for the product.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Chris944_S2 said:
Many companies market their products to a specific audience in order to gain market share with that group. Whether the message given and the reality are the same is irrelevant, it’s just a matter for them to advertise among a target audience.

With regards to B&J, they have always marketed themselves to a younger, liberal audience.
They know perfectly well that it will not appeal to others such as racists or homophobes, but they chose to leave that market to other ice cream makers.

Having a certain image among their target audience allows them to ask a premium compared to an unknown ice-cream maker who “shuts up and just makes ice cream”. Selling less ice cream at a higher price might well be more profitable than selling bigger volumes with tiny margins.
Being vocal is part of their business model, and it’s irrelevant whether their message is true or not, so long as their target audience is convinced by it they will be willing to pay more for the product.
So why do they do business in Saudi then?

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

91 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Dagnir said:
More empty virtue signalling... hardly surprising.


I stopped buying BnJ's a couple of years ago after one of
their other 'progressive' campaigns.


The arrogance of these people. You make ice cream. Shut up and make ice cream ffs. Stop patronising people.
They make, heavily market and profit from junk food in a world with what's being described as an "obesity pandemic", they have no more right to express virtue than the people who make glocks really. Maybe less.

Dagnir

2,116 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Chris944_S2 said:
Dagnir said:
More empty virtue signalling... hardly surprising.


I stopped buying BnJ's a couple of years ago after one of
their other 'progressive' campaigns.


The arrogance of these people. You make ice cream. Shut up and make ice cream ffs. Stop patronising people.
Many companies market their products to a specific audience in order to gain market share with that group. Whether the message given and the reality are the same is irrelevant, it’s just a matter for them to advertise among a target audience.

With regards to B&J, they have always marketed themselves to a younger, liberal audience.
They know perfectly well that it will not appeal to others such as racists or homophobes, but they chose to leave that market to other ice cream makers.

Having a certain image among their target audience allows them to ask a premium compared to an unknown ice-cream maker who “shuts up and just makes ice cream”. Selling less ice cream at a higher price might well be more profitable than selling bigger volumes with tiny margins.
Being vocal is part of their business model, and it’s irrelevant whether their message is true or not, so long as their target audience is convinced by it they will be willing to pay more for the product.
Got any advice on sucking eggs, as well?

wink


Dagnir

2,116 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Teddy Lop said:
They make, heavily market and profit from junk food in a world with what's being described as an "obesity pandemic", they have no more right to express virtue than the people who make glocks really. Maybe less.
Precisely.


Yet the morons who are gullible enough to fall for advertising, will think "Yeah free pallestine! I'm a young, edgy lefty and I'm told I must support pallestine, so this must be for me!"