Age of New Tyres
Discussion
I have a V12 Vantage S, two weeks ago it went in to the main dealer for Service, MOT and Warranty inspection (extended warranty), i was informed late in the afternoon that the two rears were on the limit and that one would fail the MOT. So obviously it required 2 rears, so i agreed to put them on then realising that the front were the originals decided to have those changed too. So four new tyres fitted at main dealer, MOT passed and Warrany Inspection renewal for one more year.
Washing the car this morning as i was going round the rear tyres and saw that the manufacture date, moulded into the oval on the sidewall is showing (1421), looked round at the other rear, exactly the same (1421) I interpret that as week 14 year 21, so roughly manufactured May 21, all good. I get to the fronts and see the manaufacture date is (4919) on both front tyres, i interpret this as week 49 year 19 so roughly first week in December 2019.
Would this be of any concern to you Aston owners out there, that i have tyres that were manufactured nearly 20 months ago fitted to my precious thing or am i looking too deep and concerning myself about nothing really.
You learned knowlege would be greatly received.
Washing the car this morning as i was going round the rear tyres and saw that the manufacture date, moulded into the oval on the sidewall is showing (1421), looked round at the other rear, exactly the same (1421) I interpret that as week 14 year 21, so roughly manufactured May 21, all good. I get to the fronts and see the manaufacture date is (4919) on both front tyres, i interpret this as week 49 year 19 so roughly first week in December 2019.
Would this be of any concern to you Aston owners out there, that i have tyres that were manufactured nearly 20 months ago fitted to my precious thing or am i looking too deep and concerning myself about nothing really.
You learned knowlege would be greatly received.
I think its all down to how long you expect to take to wear out the tyres to be honest.
If you're going to have them on for 2-4yrs before replacing again then I really wouldn't worry, if you anticipate much longer then it maybe more of an issue, but still in the grand scale of things, 20mths isnt that old and given the tyres on our cars are never going to be volume sellers you cant really expect them all to have been made last week.
If you're going to have them on for 2-4yrs before replacing again then I really wouldn't worry, if you anticipate much longer then it maybe more of an issue, but still in the grand scale of things, 20mths isnt that old and given the tyres on our cars are never going to be volume sellers you cant really expect them all to have been made last week.
According to Kwik Fit:
"Tyre Age when buying new tyres
Tyres are considered to be ‘new’ and are suitable for retail sale for, up to 5 years from the original date of production with recommended storage guidance from tyre manufacturers.
The industry standard for tyres, based on the German BRV recommendation, is the ‘5 year rule’ for new tyres. "
Think I read something similar in Autocar recently. But I would have said 2 years max.
"Tyre Age when buying new tyres
Tyres are considered to be ‘new’ and are suitable for retail sale for, up to 5 years from the original date of production with recommended storage guidance from tyre manufacturers.
The industry standard for tyres, based on the German BRV recommendation, is the ‘5 year rule’ for new tyres. "
Think I read something similar in Autocar recently. But I would have said 2 years max.
Thanks everyone for your responses, i will have a quick look at the manufacturers blurb to see what they say, i didnt think of that earlier. Seems a bit odd having them sat around on shelves for 5 years and still classed as "new", as we know rubber start to degrade in the atmosphere anyway.
Cheers
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john ryan said:
The 5 year rule is fine until within 2 years you get advisories on the mot, and a knock down trade in. I would not acceot more than 12 months, and expect less.
Can you get advisories on the tyre manaufacture dates, is that what youre saying, ive never heard of that before.I think you mentioned that you dealt with a main dealer (even though they might have contracted out the actual tyre fitment).
In that case, main dealers portray the public impression of top level customer service. Perhaps now is the time for them to 'take it on the chin' and meet those expectations.
In the spring this year, I bought a set of cut price mail order tyres (the usual favourites). The manufacture dates were Feb 2021 and Nov 2020.
Hope your main dealer did not charge you more than mail order prices, for your two year old tyres.
Even though they might make excuses, surely they should equal or better what you could have promptly obtained online.
I had the tyres delivered to my home, because fitment was not immediate, but they would have delivered to any motor trade address if I wished.
john ryan said:
The 5 year rule is fine until within 2 years you get advisories on the mot, and a knock down trade in. I would not acceot more than 12 months, and expect less.
Is that the theory? My MoT testers must therefore be very slack.
OEM tyres would have become at least 5 years old in 2014.
Have just checked and see that every MoT since then, have no advisories.
It was only the 2021 MoT, when new tyres were present.
At last years service I was told the fronts were showing signs of cracking with age and would need changing before long. This year it was an Mot advisory. Maybe next year it would be a fail, dunno. They were last changed 7 years ago (and may therefore be even older I guess). I'll replace soon, but not been too panicked as I'm not doing 150 on the autobahn nor tracking it. Searched this out from Tyreman on Z4 Forum (alit of tyre knowhow there...):
"there is no legislation around the age of tyres but manufacturers won't take back any stock over two years old. The NTDA recommendations are stringent inspection at five years for signs of age and replacement at ten irrespective of condition, you should feel the benefit after changing as there is no doubt that yours will have deteriorated"
"there is no legislation around the age of tyres but manufacturers won't take back any stock over two years old. The NTDA recommendations are stringent inspection at five years for signs of age and replacement at ten irrespective of condition, you should feel the benefit after changing as there is no doubt that yours will have deteriorated"
I get advisories listed one year and then not mentioned the next. Can be a bit random.
I think if you mentioned it to me when you phoned me up I would have let you fix it there and then but when you tell me as I am picking up the car, then it can wait until next year unless it is serious.
I think if you mentioned it to me when you phoned me up I would have let you fix it there and then but when you tell me as I am picking up the car, then it can wait until next year unless it is serious.
geresey said:
"there is no legislation around the age of tyres but manufacturers won't take back any stock over two years old. The NTDA recommendations are stringent inspection at five years for signs of age and replacement at ten irrespective of condition, you should feel the benefit after changing as there is no doubt that yours will have deteriorated"
^^^ This reflects my understanding. It's more looking for signs of cracking and hardening, and it does depend on how you drive the car and the use they will get in the next few years - whether they will get to that age and of a little hardening is a big deal for you in terms of handling. I confess to older tyres that I changed not because they were excessively worn but they were getting on a bit (about 8 years I think) and cracking around the tread blocks, never had an MOT advisory on this stuff but I do choose my MOT guys to be pragmatic and not overly fussy.In the O/P's case the only sympathy I would have for the dealer is if they were a hard-to-source size eg some of the Michelins, but presuming they are Potenza's and he feels aggrieved, raise it with the dealer as the is not a premium service. Interesting to hear their reaponse. "Well, Kwik Fit say...'?
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