Vauxhall Mokka-e
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romeogolf

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2,112 posts

140 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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We've just placed an order for a new Mokka-e for my other half to replace his Renault Zoe ZE40.

We've ordered it in Elite Nav Premium trim, adding Mamba Green paint and Intellilux LED lights. They're giving us £8,550 for his 2018 Zoe (battery lease, 23,000 miles on it at present) and we're paying £31,750 for the Mokka after discounts and PiCG.

I never thought I'd pay £30k for a Vauxhall but I think they're being generous with the part-ex so in my mind it's still a £2x,xxx car! The trim level seems to be a sweet spot as it comes with all the main kit we wanted like the bigger dashboard screens, blind spot alert, and adaptive cruise control - discussing it with the dealer the discounts are heftier on this spec than the higher Ultimate trim which only seemed to add bigger wheels, some dark trim, and the Intellilux lights, the latter of which can be added as an option on the lower spec anyway.

Has anyone else ordered/received an electric Mokka yet? Any lived experiences? I don't think there's a Mokka thread yet!

TheDrownedApe

1,564 posts

77 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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some stuff here and it's the EV forum i use

https://www.speakev.com/threads/mokka-e-anyone-got...

jdizz

403 posts

225 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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romeogolf said:
We've just placed an order for a new Mokka-e for my other half to replace his Renault Zoe ZE40.

We've ordered it in Elite Nav Premium trim, adding Mamba Green paint and Intellilux LED lights. They're giving us £8,550 for his 2018 Zoe (battery lease, 23,000 miles on it at present) and we're paying £31,750 for the Mokka after discounts and PiCG.

I never thought I'd pay £30k for a Vauxhall but I think they're being generous with the part-ex so in my mind it's still a £2x,xxx car! The trim level seems to be a sweet spot as it comes with all the main kit we wanted like the bigger dashboard screens, blind spot alert, and adaptive cruise control - discussing it with the dealer the discounts are heftier on this spec than the higher Ultimate trim which only seemed to add bigger wheels, some dark trim, and the Intellilux lights, the latter of which can be added as an option on the lower spec anyway.

Has anyone else ordered/received an electric Mokka yet? Any lived experiences? I don't think there's a Mokka thread yet!
£31,750

THIRTY ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS.

For a Vauxhall Mokka.

laughlaughlaughlaugh


romeogolf

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140 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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TheDrownedApe said:
some stuff here and it's the EV forum i use

https://www.speakev.com/threads/mokka-e-anyone-got...
Thanks - Just spotted my partner's face in the last page of replies already on there haha!

romeogolf

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140 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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jdizz said:
£31,750

THIRTY ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS.

For a Vauxhall Mokka.

laughlaughlaughlaugh

I know - I paid less for a brand new C-class 6 years ago! Looking around it seems to be the "going" rate for an electric car and the level of tech is right up there with the premium price... but yes, it was a mental jump to justify it!

A500leroy

7,592 posts

139 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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Keep us posted op, Just shows how expensive the switch over currently is, be interesting to see how you go with it. Have you found out about battery life and how many years it lives for?

annodomini2

6,959 posts

272 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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romeogolf said:
jdizz said:
£31,750

THIRTY ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS.

For a Vauxhall Mokka.

laughlaughlaughlaugh

I know - I paid less for a brand new C-class 6 years ago! Looking around it seems to be the "going" rate for an electric car and the level of tech is right up there with the premium price... but yes, it was a mental jump to justify it!

Om

2,132 posts

99 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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jdizz said:
£31,750

THIRTY ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS.

For a Vauxhall Mokka.

laughlaughlaughlaugh

It's a Mokka-e!

Bobtherallyfan

1,457 posts

99 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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Lots of people are paying well over £40K for a small American (or Chinese) saloon with laughable build quality.

Blue Oval84

5,349 posts

182 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Bobtherallyfan said:
Lots of people are paying well over £40K for a small American (or Chinese) saloon with laughable build quality.
Doesn't seem to be much wrong with the build quality on the Chinese version.

Frimley111R

18,066 posts

255 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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£30k only seems a lot if you remember how much cars cost 10 or 20 years ago. You can't expect to have an ultra modern car with tons of kit and a completely new propulsions system for £10k.

Cupramax

10,891 posts

273 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Frimley111R said:
£30k only seems a lot if you remember how much cars cost 10 or 20 years ago. You can't expect to have an ultra modern car with tons of kit and a completely new propulsions system for £10k.
Electric motors arent a new propulsion system. Battery prices have fallen massively over the past few years and when you take the price of not having an engine, gearbox, exhaust, radiator etc out of the equasion no way do they cost £10k more to produce than an equivalent small petrol car.

annodomini2

6,959 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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EVs still have a cooling system, most electric motors and the batteries are liquid cooled

Frimley111R

18,066 posts

255 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Cupramax said:
Frimley111R said:
£30k only seems a lot if you remember how much cars cost 10 or 20 years ago. You can't expect to have an ultra modern car with tons of kit and a completely new propulsions system for £10k.
Electric motors arent a new propulsion system. Battery prices have fallen massively over the past few years and when you take the price of not having an engine, gearbox, exhaust, radiator etc out of the equasion no way do they cost £10k more to produce than an equivalent small petrol car.
They are for cars. You can't just pick a motor off the shelf and stick it in a car. Similarly there are no chassis for EVs sitting on shelves or massive battery packs in the right configuration for cars or software to manage batteries and motors for car propulsion plus TC, stability controls, etc, or pre tested suspension, braking systems, or crash tested bodyshells. It's all new. And lets not forget that they still have to support future investment, marketing, sales channels, administration, thousands of staff etc.

Ask Tesla if you're still unconvinced.....

RobbyJ

1,769 posts

243 months

off_again

13,917 posts

255 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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annodomini2 said:
Good luck actually leaving a dealership with a C-class for that price. I am sure you could, but that is going to be bottom of the barrel and most likely a special order. I suspect that you would need to bring a further 5k-8k to get it close to the spec of a top-of-the-range model like a Mokka-e. And dont forget that an EV is more expensive to start with! And doesnt the Mokka-e come with a government incentive?

annodomini2

6,959 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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off_again said:
annodomini2 said:
Good luck actually leaving a dealership with a C-class for that price. I am sure you could, but that is going to be bottom of the barrel and most likely a special order. I suspect that you would need to bring a further 5k-8k to get it close to the spec of a top-of-the-range model like a Mokka-e. And dont forget that an EV is more expensive to start with! And doesnt the Mokka-e come with a government incentive?
Not disagreeing, more in response to the comment that someone paid less for a new one some time ago, than the price of this mokka.

romeogolf

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2,112 posts

140 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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annodomini2 said:
Not disagreeing, more in response to the comment that someone paid less for a new one some time ago, than the price of this mokka.
It was me, the OP! I've got a 6 year old C-class which I bought new for less than we've just agreed to pay for a Mokka-e - I was just agreeing further up that the price shocked me, but that looking around it's the "going" rate for a well specc'd box-fresh electric vehicle.

Thread made me curious so I went digging and found the original order for my C-class:


annodomini2

6,959 posts

272 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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romeogolf said:
annodomini2 said:
Not disagreeing, more in response to the comment that someone paid less for a new one some time ago, than the price of this mokka.
It was me, the OP! I've got a 6 year old C-class which I bought new for less than we've just agreed to pay for a Mokka-e - I was just agreeing further up that the price shocked me, but that looking around it's the "going" rate for a well specc'd box-fresh electric vehicle.

Thread made me curious so I went digging and found the original order for my C-class:

Not disagreeing again, just the market has changed.

romeogolf

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140 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2021
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Minor update, 4 months since ordering we've been told we can expect delivery in mid-December!