Romance Fraud - again
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9838979/R...
I always feel sympathy for these people - especially the older generation. However, it seems this woman is expecting to just be bailed out........
I always feel sympathy for these people - especially the older generation. However, it seems this woman is expecting to just be bailed out........
Article said:
"Rachel accepts she was fooled and has stressed she does not expect special treatment.
She said: 'I have never disputed that I authorised the payments.
'I know this is my mistake, but under their code I am eligible for help and I just want to be treated fairly which is why I am taking this further.'
She said: 'I have never disputed that I authorised the payments.
'I know this is my mistake, but under their code I am eligible for help and I just want to be treated fairly which is why I am taking this further.'
Article said:
A spokesperson for Santander said: 'We have the utmost sympathy for Ms Elwell and all those who fall victim to the criminals who carry out these scams.
'Unfortunately, despite repeatedly warning her of the dangers of transferring money to someone she hadn't met and directly raising our concerns that this was a scam with Ms Elwell and the police, she confirmed she wanted to proceed with the payments.'
I'm sorry, but if you are repeatedly warned about this by the bank, personal responsibility comes into force.....'Unfortunately, despite repeatedly warning her of the dangers of transferring money to someone she hadn't met and directly raising our concerns that this was a scam with Ms Elwell and the police, she confirmed she wanted to proceed with the payments.'
Dromedary66 said:
The banks shouldn't ever reimburse in this case or unscrupulous folk would send money to friends in foreign countries and claim to be scammed and double their money.
This. The banks have a duty to warn their customers about doing stupid things and take to reasonable steps to protect us from ourselves, especially the old and vulnerable. BUT. We all have the right to do stupid things and it's not the bank's job to stop us throwing all our money into a lake.
I do think banks should be forced to offer a 'no new or unknown payees' lock on accounts, to allow vulnerable account holders to be protected.
It's unfortunate but also extremely stupid and I'm struggling to have sympathy here.
If she was an elderly person who was unknowing and actively conned out of money it's a different situation. This particular example seems to be someone who's naive and very gullible. Perhaps too nice for her own good but how is that anyone else's fault?
If she was an elderly person who was unknowing and actively conned out of money it's a different situation. This particular example seems to be someone who's naive and very gullible. Perhaps too nice for her own good but how is that anyone else's fault?
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Although she's young and employed etc it makes you wonder what was going on.
My question is with that much funds going through her account why was there no bank flags?
At the very least laundering.
There were bank flags. They repeatedly contacted her (and the Police apparently) to say it looked very much like a scam. My question is with that much funds going through her account why was there no bank flags?
At the very least laundering.
She proceeded anyway and now wants the bank to cover it......
Her gofundme details the whole story. At one point the police came round to check:
Police officers from the West Midlands Economic Crime Victim Care unit arrived at my house on Friday 5 March, sent by Santander to question me about my relationship with Bario, as my bank were worried.
Whilst I did not have a gun to my head, it felt as if I did. If I alerted them to Bario’s situation …the gangsters could kill him …so I lied and said everything was okay.
It’s hard to see how she can win any appeals with such behaviour, lying to police and the bank. I feel sorry for her but this is all on her.
Police officers from the West Midlands Economic Crime Victim Care unit arrived at my house on Friday 5 March, sent by Santander to question me about my relationship with Bario, as my bank were worried.
Whilst I did not have a gun to my head, it felt as if I did. If I alerted them to Bario’s situation …the gangsters could kill him …so I lied and said everything was okay.
It’s hard to see how she can win any appeals with such behaviour, lying to police and the bank. I feel sorry for her but this is all on her.
To those saying they've no sympathy I'd simply ask at what point do you draw the line between stupidity and perhaps some deeper issues around mental health and being vulnerable to that kind of thing?
I half get it because you read it and think "oh my god you did what?" but the people who fall for these scams are often lonely or vulnerable or whatever you want to call it.
I get that it's probably not the fault of the banks but some of the views whilst unsurprising seem to assume people make a deliberate choice.
I half get it because you read it and think "oh my god you did what?" but the people who fall for these scams are often lonely or vulnerable or whatever you want to call it.
I get that it's probably not the fault of the banks but some of the views whilst unsurprising seem to assume people make a deliberate choice.
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