Lloyds Open Form on illegal entrant rhibs
Lloyds Open Form on illegal entrant rhibs
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Rangeroverover

Original Poster:

1,523 posts

134 months

Friday 6th August 2021
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Just wondering, if I found or assisted an inbound or deserted rhib could I claim LOF, establish a debt against the vessel and in the absence of an owner/master end up with a freebie. Just need to get a line on it.

Any thoughts on this


Simpo Two

91,361 posts

288 months

Friday 6th August 2021
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Or just claim finders-keepers... the 'owner' will be in France buyng another one.

Super Sonic

12,295 posts

77 months

Saturday 7th August 2021
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anonymous said:
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What an awful thing to say. :-0

Sheepshanks

39,302 posts

142 months

Saturday 7th August 2021
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Sell it to the police - they've been buying them up to force up prices.

Super Sonic

12,295 posts

77 months

Saturday 7th August 2021
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anonymous said:
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Apologies, I misunderstood and thought you meant with people in it. Sorry for judging your character :-/

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

233 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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Rangeroverover said:
Just wondering, if I found or assisted an inbound or deserted rhib could I claim LOF, establish a debt against the vessel and in the absence of an owner/master end up with a freebie. Just need to get a line on it.

Any thoughts on this
If you assist any craft carrying potential migrants - whether in distress or not - you're going to have an awful lot of explaining to do and are leaving yourself open to potential prosecution.

The official advice for leisure sailors should you encounter potential migrants is to stand well off to prevent them from boarding your own boat and inform the Coastguard of numbers, position and course.

People in distress or in the water or finding an empty craft warrants an immediate Mayday call.
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Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

136 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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You are not going to be prosecuted for saving a life at sea. As a master of a vessel you are obligated to assist a vessel in distress. If they are in life threatening situation and you are capable of helping, to deliberately not help would be illegal.

Sure if theres hundreds in the water and they are trying to swamp your 20ft yacht, you can leave them to save your own bacon but you are still obligated to make the appropriate distress call and help where you can.

I would put money on there being no chance of a successful prosecution if you drag drowning immigrants out the water saving their lives as long as you take them to the authorities. If you took them to port and set them free, you might be in the st then.

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

233 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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Psycho Warren said:
You are not going to be prosecuted for saving a life at sea. As a master of a vessel you are obligated to assist a vessel in distress. If they are in life threatening situation and you are capable of helping, to deliberately not help would be illegal.

Sure if theres hundreds in the water and they are trying to swamp your 20ft yacht, you can leave them to save your own bacon but you are still obligated to make the appropriate distress call and help where you can.

I would put money on there being no chance of a successful prosecution if you drag drowning immigrants out the water saving their lives as long as you take them to the authorities. If you took them to port and set them free, you might be in the st then.
In the real world I'd put money on any threat of action against you being laughed out of court too and yes, nobody should even contemplate leaving anyone in the water to drown and if the situation arose then of course you'd assist anyway you could.




808 Estate

2,570 posts

114 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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Why cant they rescue them and return them to thr French authorities.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

136 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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808 Estate said:
Why cant they rescue them and return them to thr French authorities.
The french won't take them.

Simpo Two

91,361 posts

288 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Psycho Warren said:
808 Estate said:
Why cant they rescue them and return them to thr French authorities.
The french won't take them.
They took them in the first place...