AC Cobra
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dalenorth

Original Poster:

930 posts

195 months

Saturday 7th August 2021
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I think I finally settled on an AC Cobra, but I need someone to educate me in this minefield.

We can’t afford an original but I’m looking at cars at £50k and some at £130k, but don’t know how to differentiate the models, costs, etc. I definitely don’t want something someone has built in their garage, that’s for sure.

Can anyone help me on my quest, and if anyone has one relatively local to the East Midlands I’d love to meet up and find out a little more about experiences.

Many thanks

coppice

9,673 posts

172 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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Get one that looks like a 289 - narrow body, understated , discreet rear exhaust . Lovely shape , unlike the hideous. steroid bulging 427 upon which most kits are based . Obviously a tweed jacket and tie would enhance the image further , and differentiate you from the bandana/ work boot stereotype.

CoreyDog

883 posts

118 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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Friend of mine near Nottingham picked up a Gardner Douglas Cobra a few years ago and still has it. We even took a trip down to the factory near Grantham where it was built so he could eye up a few extras. Really friendly and professional setup.

He did months of research before deciding to go for the GD and hasn't regretted it once. Though I'm sure the LS3 V8 with well over 400bhp has something to do with that.

Ill give him a call and see if he is happy for me to pass his number on, think he would definitely be able to help.

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Just sent you an email over Dale.

Edited by CoreyDog on Sunday 8th August 09:42

Belle427

11,771 posts

261 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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https://www.gdcars.com/pre-owned?page=2
Considered to be one of the best, I built a Mk3 jag based one in 2003 and sold it in 2010.
I do prefer the more aggressive look of the Mk4.
Lots more advice available on the uk cobra club if you join up.

sociopath

3,433 posts

94 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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The brand is much less important than how it was built and by whom.

I had a dax, and now I have one based on a pilgrim.

Any of the companies that have been around a while can be the basis for a good car.

If you're into spending money then Dave Brookes and Anthony Hale are the real top end custom builders.

At the top end you'll get aluminium bodied, but then you're spending the same money as you would on a continuation model from AC themselves.

Other than that get a car that's built with decent parts, and has a build record.

And above all else, if you're buying prebuilt make sure it's been registered properly and isn't still classes as a ford Granada or equivalent.

For the record I prefer 427 over 289, but to each their own

aeropilot

40,393 posts

255 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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dalenorth said:
I think I finally settled on an AC Cobra, but I need someone to educate me in this minefield.

We can’t afford an original but I’m looking at cars at £50k and some at £130k, but don’t know how to differentiate the models, costs, etc. I definitely don’t want something someone has built in their garage, that’s for sure.
If you have a budget that can go to £130k, then you really should only be looking at a AC Mk.IV or one of the newer Shelby-American CSX/COB series cars..........forget any of the kit cars with that budget.

For example....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1368367

Or....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1366894

Or....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1315161



dalenorth

Original Poster:

930 posts

195 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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Thank you for your help guys, it’s much appreciated.

Frankthered

1,686 posts

208 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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sociopath said:
The brand is much less important than how it was built and by whom.

I had a dax, and now I have one based on a pilgrim.

Any of the companies that have been around a while can be the basis for a good car.

If you're into spending money then Dave Brookes and Anthony Hale are the real top end custom builders.

At the top end you'll get aluminium bodied, but then you're spending the same money as you would on a continuation model from AC themselves.

Other than that get a car that's built with decent parts, and has a build record.

And above all else, if you're buying prebuilt make sure it's been registered properly and isn't still classes as a ford Granada or equivalent.

For the record I prefer 427 over 289, but to each their own
Some sensible words here! You might get more response if you post in the Kit Car section. I was going to mention Dave Brookes too - he used to be a fairly regular contributor in the KC section, but hasn't been active for a while, it seems! (Probably too busy by the looks of his FB page.)

There is also cobraclub.com where you will get more opinions and information than you can shake a stick at!

Oh, and in case you didn't know, the National Kit Car Show is happening on August 28th & 29th at the National Showground in Stoneleigh (Warks) which might well be worth a visit for you. I've not been keeping up with which manufacturers are attending, but there is usually a significant club presence in the grounds. The only reason I am a little less than certain there will be a big attendance is because the event usually takes place on the Mayday bank holiday weekend, but has been disrupted due to Covid-19 - no show at all last year and revised date this year - and I can't go!!

For the record, I prefer the 289 like the earlier poster, but Cobras aren't really my thing - If I had that much money to spend on a car, I'd be talking to Lister Bell about a Stratos!

aeropilot

40,393 posts

255 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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dalenorth said:
Thank you for your help guys, it’s much appreciated.
To be honest, if your really are in the £100k+ budget, you are pretty much in position to buy a new build to your spec from Shelby in the USA....as prices start at US$90k......less engine.
IIRC Bill Shepherd Mustang in Byfleet is the Shelby UK agent, maybe worth talking to them first.


Belle427

11,771 posts

261 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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People frown upon the replicas but they are night and day from where they were 20 years ago.
Maybe a trip to the Gardner Douglas factory is in order to see one of their demos and take a look for yourself, I'm just picking them as I'm a big fan but to be fair the likes of Dax and Ak cars make some lovely cars.


dalenorth

Original Poster:

930 posts

195 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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I emailed superformance and they put me in touch with Le Mans Coupes in Sussex as their UK agent.

They can build one to spec mk2 or mk3 for circa £120k and they look awesome.

Anyone have any experience of these guys or their cars?

aeropilot

40,393 posts

255 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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dalenorth said:
I emailed superformance and they put me in touch with Le Mans Coupes in Sussex as their UK agent.

They can build one to spec mk2 or mk3 for circa £120k and they look awesome.

Anyone have any experience of these guys or their cars?
Superformance are an agent for Shelby as well, so is that 120k for a Superformance Mk2 or 3 or a proper Shelby CSX car built up?

For your budget I would have the real thing and have that CSX 4000/6000/7000/8000/9000 chassis number rather than a 'replica'.


V8covin

10,012 posts

221 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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shiversaint

117 posts

68 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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Have you driven one, OP? Stupid question but they are pretty unique experiences and not for everyone.

A friend had a superformance 427 in California, and he rarely took it out. He found it uncomfortable, unweildy and really quite stressful to drive. I would regard him as a competent driver well versed with the reality of big displacement engines, he's owned his fair share of big boy sports cars. I was a passenger many times and I similarly can't say I loved it - the novelty wore off very quickly.

Register1

2,279 posts

122 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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dalenorth said:
I think I finally settled on an AC Cobra, but I need someone to educate me in this minefield.

We can’t afford an original but I’m looking at cars at £50k and some at £130k, but don’t know how to differentiate the models, costs, etc. I definitely don’t want something someone has built in their garage, that’s for sure.

Can anyone help me on my quest, and if anyone has one relatively local to the East Midlands I’d love to meet up and find out a little more about experiences.

Many thanks
Autotrader.co.za


https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for-sale/ac/cobra...
£21k


https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for-sale/ac/cobra...
£21k



Edited by Register1 on Tuesday 17th August 16:45


Edited by Register1 on Tuesday 17th August 16:47

dalenorth

Original Poster:

930 posts

195 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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A very kind gentleman took me out for a spin in his Kirkham replica today, to say I’m sold is an understatement! This car had an original cobra engine, brakes etc and the side pipes growled like nothing I’ve ever heard before.

Any thoughts on the Kirkham cars?

dalenorth

Original Poster:

930 posts

195 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Thanks for the help in the forum folks. After much research and viewing a few cars I have ordered one of Dave Brookes 427 cars.

He’s a cracking guy and the end product is brilliant. My only issue is I need to wait until Sept 23!

Belle427

11,771 posts

261 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Well done, you won't be disappointed.