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a low mileage LHD 996 RS - I believe those were not sold in the US, so should get further pick up the closer we get to the 25 years having passed. Plus they are relatively rare. Of course you then can't drive it to ensure it stays low mileage - which would annoy me no end. One could imo also make an argument for the gen 2 996 GT2 Clubsport - rare as f...., but not an RS, which might hold it back
the 2 997 cars as mentioned by you, might also be a good shout (Edit: I meant the 2 RS 997 cars)
the 2 997 cars as mentioned by you, might also be a good shout (Edit: I meant the 2 RS 997 cars)
Dub Duece said:
If I had a budget of less than $500,000 what would be the best Porsche(s) to collector? Contemplating investing in cars than the stock market/real estate.
Possible contenders:
997 GT3RS 4.0
997 GT2RS
997 Turbo S
993 RS and 964 RS plus the cars you've suggested (but NOT the 997 Turbo S)Possible contenders:
997 GT3RS 4.0
997 GT2RS
997 Turbo S
IMI A said:
Engine not special enough in 997 GT2 RS identical to 997.1 turbo. Suffers bad heat soak too on track even stock.
That's interesting - is it just the same engine, but mapped for more power?I read that GT2RS intercoolers etc are better, yet from your post it would seem they still don't help with the heat soak generated on a track day
The world is full of old Porsches. Values may be high today but what are they going to be worth when electric cars rule the world, all the petrol stations have closed and they're just cluttering up the garages of ageing owners?
In any "collector" category the most secure purchase is always right at the top of the pile. But then you won't want to use it in case it gets damaged.
In any "collector" category the most secure purchase is always right at the top of the pile. But then you won't want to use it in case it gets damaged.
nebpor said:
IMI A said:
Engine not special enough in 997 GT2 RS identical to 997.1 turbo. Suffers bad heat soak too on track even stock.
That's interesting - is it just the same engine, but mapped for more power?I read that GT2RS intercoolers etc are better, yet from your post it would seem they still don't help with the heat soak generated on a track day
996 turbo, 997.1 turbo , 997 GT2, and 997 GT2 RS. Same engines

IMI A said:
Very special engine by the way in the turbo, GT2 RS in term of pedigree etc won Le Man 1998 but in terms of experience not visceral rev monsters like the GT3 motors which are a real event. I actually prefer the torquey turbo engines for my own use but for collectors the 4.0 the one 
I have a 996 turbo, so I know that lot, I was more curious about the same engine comment but now I get where you were coming from - cheers!!
voram said:
The world is full of old Porsches. Values may be high today but what are they going to be worth when electric cars rule the world, all the petrol stations have closed and they're just cluttering up the garages of ageing owners?
In any "collector" category the most secure purchase is always right at the top of the pile. But then you won't want to use it in case it gets damaged.
Bit "doom monger" but I hear what you are saying.In any "collector" category the most secure purchase is always right at the top of the pile. But then you won't want to use it in case it gets damaged.
Not Porsche but I have always had a hankering for a particular couple of cars but their prices now are so high that I'd be worried about taking them out in case some twerp in 4x4 or kiddy carrying vehicle opened doors on it, scraped it in a car park, T boned it at a junction while looking elsewhere etc.
Keeping them in a garage is pointless, yes they'll continue to go up in value. Until they are no longer useable due to Govt. legislation, lack of fuel stations or fuel supply or massive high fuel duty to "disuade" from using it.
nebpor said:
IMI A said:
Very special engine by the way in the turbo, GT2 RS in term of pedigree etc won Le Man 1998 but in terms of experience not visceral rev monsters like the GT3 motors which are a real event. I actually prefer the torquey turbo engines for my own use but for collectors the 4.0 the one 
I have a 996 turbo, so I know that lot, I was more curious about the same engine comment but now I get where you were coming from - cheers!!
Electric cars Are not the future,electric cars are a joke as a green car,plenty of petrol around for at least the next 300 years,and as long as you have planes flying on kero there will be petrol,now we have bio petrol with the first race series running on it next year.
MrVert said:
I wouldn’t be starting now, prices are very high at the moment, inflated market…
I'd agree. In the past buyers could feel secure knowing that if they 'bought the top' and prices collapsed they'll just wait it out.We are going through the biggest disruption since ICE was invented.
You've got to always ask yourself, who's the future buyers and are there enough of them to bid the car up.
Unfortunately, this is probably true.
We are almost certainly in the last hoorah for indulgent ICE vehicles, as the attention turns to achieving ‘net zero’, and politics put tax and legislative pressure on many of these cars.
Hopefully there will still be room for a healthy enthusiast market, but this will inevitably contract as the new generations of buyers no longer see the relevance.
Buy to use, while you can, not invest.
We are almost certainly in the last hoorah for indulgent ICE vehicles, as the attention turns to achieving ‘net zero’, and politics put tax and legislative pressure on many of these cars.
Hopefully there will still be room for a healthy enthusiast market, but this will inevitably contract as the new generations of buyers no longer see the relevance.
Buy to use, while you can, not invest.
Yellow491 said:
Are you sure about that won lemans in 98;)
Electric cars Are not the future,electric cars are a joke as a green car,plenty of petrol around for at least the next 300 years,and as long as you have planes flying on kero there will be petrol,now we have bio petrol with the first race series running on it next year.
Morning Paul, hope you’re well ?Electric cars Are not the future,electric cars are a joke as a green car,plenty of petrol around for at least the next 300 years,and as long as you have planes flying on kero there will be petrol,now we have bio petrol with the first race series running on it next year.
I agree on the ICE engine’s future

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hatav_Rdnno
Synthetic fuel ? Not so much :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0d0MPg7DxbY
Yellow491 said:
nebpor said:
IMI A said:
Very special engine by the way in the turbo, GT2 RS in term of pedigree etc won Le Man 1998 but in terms of experience not visceral rev monsters like the GT3 motors which are a real event. I actually prefer the torquey turbo engines for my own use but for collectors the 4.0 the one 
I have a 996 turbo, so I know that lot, I was more curious about the same engine comment but now I get where you were coming from - cheers!!
Electric cars Are not the future,electric cars are a joke as a green car,plenty of petrol around for at least the next 300 years,and as long as you have planes flying on kero there will be petrol,now we have bio petrol with the first race series running on it next year.
For collector must be the 4.0 no? No brainer

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