Dangerous neighbour who is a provisional licence holder
Dangerous neighbour who is a provisional licence holder
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surveyor_101

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5,069 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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Ok so my neighbour a polish guy who family are known to police due to domestic violence and anti social behaviour, is driving again.


In May the guy got a old focus and had a go at driving flying across the road and smashing down the side of my car parked on the my space outside my house. This wrote it off! I was left out of pocket even after my insurance paid.

He fled and neighbour came and told me what he saw. Then both him and his gf said he didnt have a licence.

I got hold of the guy and he didn’t seem bothered his gf apologised and offered to pay, but they have no money.

They have a drink and maybe a drugs issue.they got pissy that I got police and insurance involved.

In mid June he was beating her in the street at 3am and lots of police came.

Since then he was taken away for beating her up and temporary court order etc but he kept Breaching it and arrested he 3 times i know about.

He is now back and driving the car with kids in etc, he has been going out for family drives with small children at strange hours 11pm normally.

He has also started keep the car a couple streets over.

At mid day yesterday he nearly collided head on with the car in front of me which I have reported.

I have chased the police collision unit and they state enquiries into his licence are on going.

Anyone know what else I can do other than get hold of him myself.

His gf still runs way from him at 3am in her underwear which has happened several times.

The police just don’t seem to be able to do anything.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 12th August 15:35


Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 12th August 15:36

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

142 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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Sounds like he needs to have an accident on some steep steps and bounce off everyone on the fall down......

I despise wife beaters and DV abusers like that in general. A dose of their own medicine is the only language they will understand. Sadly that's illegal.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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Keep a dossier of evidence and hand it to Social Svs?!

Lee540

1,586 posts

173 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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Pics of the girlfriend?

surveyor_101

Original Poster:

5,069 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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Southerner said:
Keep a dossier of evidence and hand it to Social Svs?!
Have a local council diary and social services are involved.

The kids aren’t all his only 1 of the 3.

Think he was stealing food from the warehouse as when he was arrested she was trying give away hundreds of boxes and multi packs of crisps.

He seems unemployed now.

surveyor_101

Original Poster:

5,069 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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Lee540 said:
Pics of the girlfriend?
She is rough mate abuses substances and smokes like a coal miner

CoolHands

23,407 posts

224 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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Ignore.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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Rightmove.co.uk?

mgtony

4,212 posts

219 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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CoolHands said:
Ignore.
The situation, the OP, the thread or best, all three??

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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surveyor_101 said:
The police just don’t seem to be able to do anything.
Why does this keep coming up in thread after thread after thread.
It seems rife wherever you look.

Surely they can't be THAT incompetent THAT often?

It must be embarrassing being a police person.

MikeM6

6,036 posts

131 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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surveyor_101 said:
Ok so my neighbour a polish guy who family are known to police due to domestic violence and anti social behaviour, is driving again.


In May the guy got a old focus and had a go at driving flying across the road and smashing down the side of my car parked on the my space outside my house. This wrote it off! I was left out of pocket even after my insurance paid.

He fled and neighbour came and told me what he saw. Then both him and his gf said he didnt have a licence.

I got hold of the guy and he didn’t seem bothered his gf apologised and offered to pay, but they have no money.

They have a drink and maybe a drugs issue.they got pissy that I got police and insurance involved.

In mid June he was beating her in the street at 3am and lots of police came.

Since then he was taken away for beating her up and temporary court order etc but he kept Breaching it and arrested he 3 times i know about.

He is now back and driving the car with kids in etc, he has been going out for family drives with small children at strange hours 11pm normally.

He has also started keep the car a couple streets over.

At mid day yesterday he nearly collided head on with the car in front of me which I have reported.

I have chased the police collision unit and they state enquiries into his licence are on going.

Anyone know what else I can do other than get hold of him myself.

His gf still runs way from him at 3am in her underwear which has happened several times.

The police just don’t seem to be able to do anything.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 12th August 15:35


Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 12th August 15:36
Please ring your local authority's children's services department as those children are at risk of significant harm, not just from his alcohol and driving but through experiencing domestic abuse. It sounds like they need help and the police will have referred, but your input might be the missing information that links it together and protects those children. You can do it anonymously if you must, but best if they can contact you for more details etc.

CoolHands

23,407 posts

224 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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mgtony said:
CoolHands said:
Ignore.
The situation, the OP, the thread or best, all three??
The op should ignore the 3rd party and get on with his life. Anything else is futile.

Mr_Megalomaniac

1,273 posts

95 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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CoolHands said:
The op should ignore the 3rd party and get on with his life. Anything else is futile.
Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.
Your suggestion sucks.

surveyor_101 said:
He has also started keep the car a couple streets over.
Aside from (very obviously) continuing to pester the police to pull finger and do their job that we pay so much tax for; I would hazard that should the car happen to have flat tyres, it cannot be driven. Now I'm not advocating that one should intentionally see to such an occurance; but it is nevertheless an obvious observation that would benefit all involved wink

RogueTrooper

882 posts

200 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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speedyguy said:
surveyor_101 said:
The police just don’t seem to be able to do anything.
Why does this keep coming up in thread after thread after thread.
It seems rife wherever you look.

Surely they can't be THAT incompetent THAT often?

It must be embarrassing being a police person.
It seems from the OP that the guy has been arrested numerous times and has been to court in some context too. It's difficult to see that an offender would have an order made against them without some input from the police side?

What is difficult is where evidence is hard to come by e.g. victims and neighbours don't want to get involved (understandably in some cases) or a court remains unconvinced by what evidence there is.

RogueTrooper

882 posts

200 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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surveyor_101 said:
He has also started keep the car a couple streets over.

At mid day yesterday he nearly collided head on with the car in front of me which I have reported.
Forces have different ways of reporting information.I

In some areas you can do this online, making it easy.

If you can, report the car make, model, registration and where it's kept, as well as the times it's active. Give the name and address of the driver and that you believe he's a non-licence holder (and therefore uninsured.)

IME it'll be fed into the system and hopefully acted upon by a roads policing unit or similar, sooner rather than later.

eldrich

98 posts

107 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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speedyguy said:
Why does this keep coming up in thread after thread after thread.
It seems rife wherever you look.

Surely they can't be THAT incompetent THAT often?

It must be embarrassing being a police person.
Not sure about this, it sounds like the police are doing what they can and the courts of the ones who are letting the guys out each time.

Something happens - police arrive and arrest, court then releases - rinse/repeat.

It's the court/prison system in this country that is seriously broken, talk to any police or social worker or people who clean up these messes and you find out that the only thing that deters habitual petty crime offenders is time inside.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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What do you suppose the Police should do? Stake out the guy’s house for however long it takes for a crime to be committed?

Tie up a resource indefinitely whilst “rapists, murderers and burglars are running amok”, as is the usual refrain whenever they’re doing something that doesn’t perfectly align with one’s worldview?

Let’s be realistic - the Police can report or arrest the guy if/when they observe something illegal happening, or in the process of happening and it’s reported by the OP expediently, and they’re in a position to attend (again, finite resources). Otherwise it’s “he said, she said” when they do turn up.

Or… the OP can take matters into his own hands, either by running the guy through with a blade made of the finest steel, moving house or just resigning himself to the fact that neighbours from hell are a thing. Maybe all three.

That’s his options.

fido

18,882 posts

284 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Not a domestic issue but a family who decided to
bring their third-worldly ways to a nice residential area. I and neighbours tried everything - as said above the police need to be helped a bit - eventually caught them with 2 untaxed vehicles on the road. They moved very quickly when I made their existence as annoying as possible - basically what they were doing to everyone else.

surveyor_101

Original Poster:

5,069 posts

208 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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fido said:
Not a domestic issue but a family who decided to
bring their third-worldly ways to a nice residential area. I and neighbours tried everything - as said above the police need to be helped a bit - eventually caught them with 2 untaxed vehicles on the road. They moved very quickly when I made their existence as annoying as possible - basically what they were doing to everyone else.
The landlord is a social housing surveyor and seems to be soft as cottage cheese. He has had many issues but just keeps say8n* I have read the riot act to her, this guy is supposed to be gone now as far as he is concerned I haven5 updated as to the fact he is back.

I have contacted him twice and police have had he here on his holiday week as one time they cam to arrest him and she wouldn’t let police in claiming she lost the key. You think if the police are calling you that you might want rid of a tenant especially if this market.

He just seems to say the same thing and thinks she is vulnerable. She had a guy before two years ago and massive bust up occurred and then she got this guy. I thought she was a victim but she seems facilitating the guy. She also got one of her children to ask me not call the police as he is wonderful dad and when he gets back there off the beach.

surveyor_101

Original Poster:

5,069 posts

208 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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anonymous said:
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That’s true he came back every time. The last time the police came for h8m it was 3 days after the last time and I had made statement the day before to what I had seen. The copper said have you seem h8m, I said he is still locked up isn’t he? To which he laughed.

They were here over a hour for the landlord to let them in the woman blamed me for calling the pol ie but I had been out that morning and had no idea he was back!