Irish Citizenship
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croyde

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26,348 posts

259 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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My brother has just had his granted through our Irish Grandfather.

Took 18 months from start to finish and he and his wife did all the hard work of getting certified copies of our granddad's and dad's birth and death certificates.

So he's given them to me and I might as well apply.

I'm nearly 60 and did hope to spend winters somewhere warm during my retirement, if I get there, but thanks to Brexit!!??#

So maybe within the next 2 years I could have an Irish Passport.

Anyone else done this?

Currently on the Foreign Births Register website they say they are working through applications as the process slowed due to Covid and the number of applicants.

I'm also having trouble with finding someone to witness the documentation and my pictures.

My doctor retired during Covid and the other guy at my surgery, who has treated me loads of times over the decades, won't do it 'as he doesn't know me'.

My accountant has just pointed out that he's actually a Tax Consultant therefore thinks he's not eligible, as it only says accountant on the list of possible witnesses.

My pharmacist has said he would. He does know every drug I have taken in the past 25 years hehe

Or I can use it as an excuse to contact my ex girlfriend who is a head teacher.

The other thing is utility bills. It's all on-line thus who has actual paper bills these days?

All this: you must go paperless, hasn't been thought through.

I've been in touch with Dublin and they have told me to make a PDF copy and get the utility company to stamp it??

So download, copy, print, send to EON and hope you get it back.

I'm not knocking the Irish system as applying for my Brit renewal was a similar ballache.

Just seems Passports etc have not moved with the times.

On top of all this, with a possible 2 year wait, I will have moved at least twice hehe

ClaphamGT3

12,234 posts

272 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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I got mine because my mother was born in Ireland. This meant that I could skip the Foreign Births Register stage that I'm now in the midst of for my daughters.

The process is simple and clear. I used our next door neighbour who is a Judge as a witness and, even with Covid, the whole process was just over 3 months soup to nuts.

croyde

Original Poster:

26,348 posts

259 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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That's brilliant.

The FBR site is now saying it has paused processing new applications as it is working through the backload.


The Mad Monk

11,460 posts

146 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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Why would you want an Irish passport/citizenship?

Odhran

579 posts

212 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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croyde said:
My brother has just had his granted through our Irish Grandfather.

Took 18 months from start to finish and he and his wife did all the hard work of getting certified copies of our granddad's and dad's birth and death certificates.

So he's given them to me and I might as well apply.

I'm nearly 60 and did hope to spend winters somewhere warm during my retirement, if I get there, but thanks to Brexit!!??#

So maybe within the next 2 years I could have an Irish Passport.

Anyone else done this?

Currently on the Foreign Births Register website they say they are working through applications as the process slowed due to Covid and the number of applicants.

I'm also having trouble with finding someone to witness the documentation and my pictures.

My doctor retired during Covid and the other guy at my surgery, who has treated me loads of times over the decades, won't do it 'as he doesn't know me'.

My accountant has just pointed out that he's actually a Tax Consultant therefore thinks he's not eligible, as it only says accountant on the list of possible witnesses.

My pharmacist has said he would. He does know every drug I have taken in the past 25 years hehe

Or I can use it as an excuse to contact my ex girlfriend who is a head teacher.

The other thing is utility bills. It's all on-line thus who has actual paper bills these days?

All this: you must go paperless, hasn't been thought through.

I've been in touch with Dublin and they have told me to make a PDF copy and get the utility company to stamp it??

So download, copy, print, send to EON and hope you get it back.

I'm not knocking the Irish system as applying for my Brit renewal was a similar ballache.

Just seems Passports etc have not moved with the times.

On top of all this, with a possible 2 year wait, I will have moved at least twice hehe
The renewal process is very quick / slick so you’ll not have much trouble in 10 years time if it’s any consolation. Brexit & COVID are a perfect storm for the increased demand they face at present. Many northern pro- brexit unionists who never would have previously dreamt of holding an Irish passport were first in line once they realised how much of a sticky situation they faced at the turn of the year.

Jim H

1,766 posts

218 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
Why would you want an Irish passport/citizenship?
Probably because he wants the same freedoms enjoyed prior to Brexit.

Now, sadly not the case.

Irish passport holders are still EU citizens and have all the rights and freedoms.

U.K. passport holders don’t .

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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Jim H said:
The Mad Monk said:
Why would you want an Irish passport/citizenship?
Probably because he wants the same freedoms enjoyed prior to Brexit.

Now, sadly not the case.

Irish passport holders are still EU citizens and have all the rights and freedoms.

U.K. passport holders don’t .
Apart from being unable to spend more than 90 days a year in a European country, what other 'freedoms' are UK citizens missing out on?

BT Summers

702 posts

90 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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I keep telling my step daughter to get an Irish passport through her father who was born in Ireland. We have a house in Vilamoura which she will probably inherit and maybe move there. I suspect that being an EU citizen will make the process easier.

But its like talking to a brick wall.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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What is an EU citizen?

The EU is not a country.

BT Summers

702 posts

90 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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EU citizens are defined as citizens of Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden.

ClaphamGT3

12,234 posts

272 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
Why would you want an Irish passport/citizenship?
Because it affords all the benefits of EU citizenship. For me this is freedom of movement, simpler border controls, removal of bureaucracy around doing business in The EU and right to reside in EU countries. For my children it is the right to study and - perhaps - work in EU countries

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

96 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
Why would you want an Irish passport/citizenship?
He says in his post.

Having a passport making you a citizen of a destination makes being there far easier than visa options. I suspect British passport holders not to have massive difficulty going forwards but it's not unknown for the EU presidency to act seemingly out of spite rather than logic and duty to its member states since Brexit.

I've pondered an Italian passport for myself since my grandmother was Sicilian but fall foul of the 1948 rule. I believe there's Irish on great grandfather's side but wouldn't know where to begin with that. No great pressure as we plan to move outside of Europe anyway but just think it might be easier to travel and have future options

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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So you are currently prevented from doing any of those things? Why?

Magooagain

13,424 posts

199 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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I'm just about to start applying for one.
I believe I'm an Irish citizen anyway due to the fact both my parents being Irish although I'm born in England. Getting an Irish passport will be handy for me as I live in France and lost my right to vote in local elections here due to Brexit.
I may apply for a French one also.

Spare tyre

12,555 posts

159 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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I keep meaning to do this as I have Irish grandfather. Do,you get to keep the British passport / can you be dual nationality

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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Spare tyre said:
I keep meaning to do this as I have Irish grandfather. Do,you get to keep the British passport / can you be dual nationality
Yes.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

96 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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Spare tyre said:
I keep meaning to do this as I have Irish grandfather. Do,you get to keep the British passport / can you be dual nationality
Very few countries are that self agrandising they make you relinquish your mother citizenship

The Mad Monk

11,460 posts

146 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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It says in the official bumf that you can have an irish passport if you live in Northern Ireland. How long do you have to live there for?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
It says in the official bumf that you can have an irish passport if you live in Northern Ireland. How long do you have to live there for?
I think it depends. That was open to everyone born there, but was withdrawn as part of the Good Friday agreement along with the Republic's claim to the six counties in their constitution.

craigjm

21,439 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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Why are people trying to drag this thread into another dull and boring Brexit discussion? I’m sure everyone know what British citizens can and can no longer do in the EU and the answer to the question why is quite simple…. Because he can