“There can be no military solution"
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Dear Taliban,
Please behave yourself, act properly towards women and don't destroy historical monuments, don't support Al Quaeda and we will give you a very large amount of cash to help rebuild your battered country and support you in the future with a free trade agreement and a foreign aid package.
Lots of love, the British Government.
Basically a similar thing that was done with Germany and Japan after WWII, after learning the lesson of what not to do from WWI.
Please behave yourself, act properly towards women and don't destroy historical monuments, don't support Al Quaeda and we will give you a very large amount of cash to help rebuild your battered country and support you in the future with a free trade agreement and a foreign aid package.
Lots of love, the British Government.
Basically a similar thing that was done with Germany and Japan after WWII, after learning the lesson of what not to do from WWI.
We never were there because they "practice extreme ideologies which are sexist and treat women and other in a barbaric way". We don't give a s
t about that stuff. We were there because of oil.
Good luck to the people there. Maybe with change comes hope. There wasn't much of that under the puppet regime.
t about that stuff. We were there because of oil.Good luck to the people there. Maybe with change comes hope. There wasn't much of that under the puppet regime.
ZedLeg said:
We were never there for humanitarian reasons in the first place, we were there to secure resources.
If the UK and US wanted to they could have spent a fraction of what they spent on military intervention helping with infrastructure and done more to help.
We were in Afghanistan because Osama Bin Laden launched the 9/11 attacks and the ruling Taliban provided him a safe haven and refused to give him up. Thus began the "war on terror"...If the UK and US wanted to they could have spent a fraction of what they spent on military intervention helping with infrastructure and done more to help.
... which lasted all of about five minutes when we invaded Iraq to secure resources and evapourated any moral high ground the US had after 9/11.
There may have been a better way but I believe (and think Osama Bin Laden knew) that avoiding an invasion of Afghanistan would have been a domestically political impossibility,
The invasion of Afghanistan was part of the war on terror. To prevent terrorists from training there. I think things went downhill more in general for the West when we went into Iraq.
I've never understood the oil theory. If the US wanted, it could easily become the largest oil producing nation on Earth. The oil reserves on mainland America plus Canada could last for hundreds of years.
I've never understood the oil theory. If the US wanted, it could easily become the largest oil producing nation on Earth. The oil reserves on mainland America plus Canada could last for hundreds of years.
NRS said:
Afghanistan doesn't even have much oil, so that's clearly nonsense as an idea and instantly shows the posters as knowing almost nothing about the real situation.
Yep, not even in the top 127 country listings - https://www.worldometers.info/oil/oil-production-b...grumbledoak said:
Oilchange said:
Oil? What oil?
Under the Caspian. We can't go through Iran because of our support for Saudi Arabia and Israel.Oilchange said:
You said we were there because of the oil, we were not and whatever small amounts are there aren't viable for many reasons, some of which are making themselves apparent right now.
Just Google "caspian oil reserves", e.g.https://web.stanford.edu/class/e297a/Caspian%20Oil...
https://www.rferl.org/a/1065819.html
Or you can keep telling us how we're really there to save all the women from the nasty men, by providing a puppet government backed up by equally nasty warlords with child sex slaves.
PH User said:
When should he have his holiday?
If you're in one of the great offices of state there are events that require your attention that come with the office and if that interrupts your holiday them's the breaks.I rather like Raab but on the deafening silence I'll defer to Tom Tugendhat.
"I don't know what is in the works because we haven't heard from the Foreign Secretary in about a week - despite this being the biggest single policy disaster since Suez".
Don't panic! Raab tweeted about an hour ago
https://twitter.com/DominicRaab/status/14269093479...
https://twitter.com/DominicRaab/status/14269093479...
Edited by rover 623gsi on Sunday 15th August 16:07
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