Paying for Porn?
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Fittster

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20,120 posts

237 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Bet the subject line gets some attention.

Why doesn't the banking / payment industry like porn? There seem to be a lot of companies that start making serious cash from adult content, OnlyFans, Tumblr and Pornhub. The owners of these sites seem to target an IPO at which point the payment processing partners get cold get and dump them.

It can't simply be an ethical decision as plenty of companies who work in dubious industries, such as arms and tobacco can access financial services without problems.

Vanden Crash

832 posts

74 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Had to double check the op username

Chrisgr31

14,222 posts

279 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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And this article https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58273914 explains what is happening. Seems odd that Only Fans are making these changes as I thought the vast majority of their income was related to sexually explicit content.

The change wont affect me but yes it does seem odd the payment processors are against porn. I guess its because its obvious they are providing financial services to the sites and there are activists targeting porn that dont target other things

MitchT

17,089 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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From what I can gather the banks, etc. were threatening to pull out (excuse the pun) if sites didn't remove anything in which the "actors" were underage or had been filmed without their consent.

MitchT

17,089 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
And this article https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58273914 explains what is happening.
fking hell! That's like Greggs banning sausage rolls!!

ArsE82

21,249 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Vanden Crash said:
Had to double check the op username
laugh

vonuber

17,868 posts

189 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Well that's their business model screwed, what an odd decision.

b0rk

2,412 posts

170 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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The payment providers get cold feet on these types of sites once they reach a scale that they can no longer deny involvement to the general public. CSR and all that.

Arms etc are business to business transactions so have an element of deniability. Unless you’ve seen the transaction records for those types of deals the financial services provider can slopey shoulders their involvement.

Late night establishments have no problems taking CC payments apparently.

glazbagun

15,167 posts

221 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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b0rk said:
The payment providers get cold feet on these types of sites once they reach a scale that they can no longer deny involvement to the general public. CSR and all that.

Arms etc are business to business transactions so have an element of deniability. Unless you’ve seen the transaction records for those types of deals the financial services provider can slopey shoulders their involvement.

Late night establishments have no problems taking CC payments apparently.
Quite. Aerofoil managed impressive debts and the CC company were far from outraged.

hyphen

26,262 posts

114 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Fittster said:
Bet the subject line gets some attention.

Why doesn't the banking / payment industry like porn?
I don't think it's porn,I'm sure they happily work with major professioanal porn studios. Seems to be commercial sites with user content creators?

Durzel

12,969 posts

192 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Payment processors got skittish, rightfully so I think, with Pornhub due to the amount of revenge, underage, dubious-or-no-consent porn etc that was ending up on there, that was failing to be policed effectively. As a result, as I understand it, in order to satisfy the processors they had to move to a curated-only verified uploader model.

OF was getting a lot of flak for underage people getting on there and posting content, with them taking similarly less-than-adequate steps to prevent it. Like Pornhub It must’ve basically reached a tipping point where the payment processors were unhappy with the response.

So, yeah, it is a bit myopic to think that the payment processors are simply puritanical. They continue to operate on the new curated-only Pornhub, which remains successful after the policy change, and will continue to do so on whatever OF becomes, assuming they can manage to do the same thing.

JagLover

46,160 posts

259 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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MitchT said:
fking hell! That's like Greggs banning sausage rolls!!
Well it's a bit confusing. "Nude content" still allowed "sexually explicit content" not.

Monsterlime

1,441 posts

190 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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No matter your view on paying for porn or not, from what I understood quite a lot of people made their livelihood on this platform and by removing that ability, they are going to hurt a lot of people due to the actions of a few.

What they should have done is not only tighten up their sign up process (or however they onboard a new creator), but then ban any account that also manages to bypass this, not just warn them.

MOBB

4,355 posts

151 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Vanden Crash said:
Had to double check the op username
beer

633Squadron

1,727 posts

61 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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ArsE82 said:
Vanden Crash said:
Had to double check the op username
laugh
post of the week IMO.

Driller

8,310 posts

302 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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I think you’ll find that this explains it quite succinctly.

NSFW language:

https://youtu.be/fcOKqXYusQw?t=128


Edited to start at the right time


Edited by Driller on Friday 20th August 10:02