How will Porsche implement EU speed limit tech?
How will Porsche implement EU speed limit tech?
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anonymous-user

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75 months

marky911

4,427 posts

240 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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You can just deactivate it, but I’d want to know the insurance implications before I did. scratchchin

DMC2

1,972 posts

232 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Another reason why I'm going to stick with my 992 forever.

Charlie_1

1,054 posts

113 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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DMC2 said:
Another reason why I'm going to stick with my 992 forever.
GTS 4.O in my case or buy the cheapest/ slowest car on sale , why would you buy anything else?

Fnumber1user

411 posts

73 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Depends how it works functionally - if its fully proactive/reactive to GPS and camera inputs, it would be easily defeat able with a piece of tape over the camera lens and/or disconnecting the antenna? But as per your link if it can be overridden using the loud pedal, it all seems a bit pointless anyways.

I'd much rather be aware / have displayed at all times what the speed limit of the road I'm on, and decide my own speed than have an autonomous 'dumb' system decide for me. Who are these people trying to nanny?, if the logic is people not being aware of the speed limit, give them that information and let them choose whether to ignore or adhere...

DodgyGeezer

45,803 posts

211 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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How would this work with UK cars on the mainland or EU cars in the UK?

anonymous-user

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75 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Sounds like it will be pretty hazardous if the only way to over ride is as stated by pressing the accelerator hard to the floor! Imagine that in a high performance car!

anonymous-user

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75 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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marky911 said:
You can just deactivate it, but I’d want to know the insurance implications before I did. scratchchin
Do you think you’re not insured if you exceed the speed limit then?

anonymous-user

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75 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Wow. That is some serious brakist brainwashing.

blueg33

43,824 posts

245 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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cc3 said:
Sounds like it will be pretty hazardous if the only way to over ride is as stated by pressing the accelerator hard to the floor! Imagine that in a high performance car!
Easily sorted by the ECU that sits between the driver and the throttle

BertBert

20,711 posts

232 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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marky911 said:
You can just deactivate it, but I’d want to know the insurance implications before I did. scratchchin
seriously?

supersport

4,519 posts

248 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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I am sure it would be so much better if it worked the other way so that the 45 everywhere brigade slowed down for the appropriate limits and actually got somewhere near a sensible speed for those wide open, clear sunny warm roads where 60 is slow.

The whole thing feels like a very bonkers solution to a not particularly big problem.

Nanny state on steroids

Slippydiff

15,899 posts

244 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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supersport said:
I am sure it would be so much better if it worked the other way so that the 45 everywhere brigade slowed down for the appropriate limits and actually got somewhere near a sensible speed for those wide open, clear sunny warm roads where 60 is slow.

The whole thing feels like a very bonkers solution to a not particularly big problem.

Nanny state on steroids
If we think ICE engined cars are going to be bad with such technology fitted, wait until we're all driving around in electric cars ...

Every time you charge the car, I suspect "they" will dictate that ALL its data will be downloaded automatically : Where you've been, when you went there, how fast you travelled, where you stopped, how many people were in the car, were their seat belts fastened, did you take the most economic route etc etc.

Charging will be by the mile driven, parking charges, ULEZ charges ... What did you say ? Surely they'll be a thing of the past once you're driving an electric car ? rofl

All will be levied automatically, ditto parking fines/speeding fines, paid in Bitcoin (or whatever those in power dictate the digital currency will be)

If anyone thinks electric cars will be the panacea they're being made out to be ... nuts

Regrettably, as a nation, we seem remarkably ambivalent about all this stuff sleep

DMZ

1,959 posts

181 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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My guess will be that sport mode or other such button/fiddling with a touchscreen for 10 mins will disable it, just like you can disable lane departure warnings and all that stuff. But needs to be done after start every time.

DodgyGeezer

45,803 posts

211 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Slippydiff said:
If we think ICE engined cars are going to be bad with such technology fitted, wait until we're all driving around in electric cars ...

Every time you charge the car, I suspect "they" will dictate that ALL its data will be downloaded automatically : Where you've been, when you went there, how fast you travelled, where you stopped, how many people were in the car, were their seat belts fastened, did you take the most economic route etc etc.

Charging will be by the mile driven, parking charges, ULEZ charges ... What did you say ? Surely they'll be a thing of the past once you're driving an electric car ? rofl

All will be levied automatically, ditto parking fines/speeding fines, paid in Bitcoin (or whatever those in power dictate the digital currency will be)

If anyone thinks electric cars will be the panacea they're being made out to be ... nuts

Regrettably, as a nation, we seem remarkably ambivalent about all this stuff sleep
sadly it's not just "as a nation" - I very much suspect that this is a thing across the whole of the West. Those that enjoy driving/drive for pleasure will slowly (or not so slowly) be pushed out (similar to smokers and meat-eaters)

paralla

4,959 posts

156 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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My Tiguan already does this.

The car knows the speed limits from the gps position and traffic sign recognition, if I enter a slower speed limit and the active cruise control is on, the car slows down to the new slower limit.

GPS is simplex (one way) communication, the car doesn’t transmit its speed to the satellite or anyone else.

Terminator X

18,995 posts

225 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Yet more dumbing down for the driver. Won't be long before asleep at the wheel accidents start going up.

TX.

b0rk

2,406 posts

167 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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DodgyGeezer said:
How would this work with UK cars on the mainland or EU cars in the UK?
There’s this thing called GPS so the car knows which country it’s in and can work out if the signs are miles or km’s. Decent systems can even read gantry signs in addition to roadside ones.

Ignoring the automatic aspect of this sign recognition has been around for a decade now and adaptive cruise linked to traffic, signs and GPS for nearly as long.

The new rules really don’t need any new magic tech to be developed. Just the ECU software to be slightly modified.

cervezaman

334 posts

162 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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DMC2 said:
Another reason why I'm going to stick with my 992 forever.
Yep, me too

RDMcG

20,286 posts

228 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Wondered about this. I usually pick up my cars at the factory (North American spec) and drive them for a while in Europe before export. The EU
requirement is not going to happen any time soon on this side of the pond, so presumably that would mean I would have a non-limited car for my pickup and track days.