Green pads
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david beer

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3,982 posts

289 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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I have just driven my griff for the first time in the wet with "green" pads and i have almost no brakes until i dry them. Is this normal ? Dont like it!

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

304 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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I use tem in everything and they are brilliant. What condition are the discs in. If they are scored or worn the pads will not be drying the discs between the grooves

shpub

8,507 posts

294 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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I have found them awful things. The only good thing about them is that they are cheap and as they are green easy to see...

They eat disks and are very iffy indeed until hot.
There are a lot better pads out there like Mintex 1144 Ferodo DS2000 and Tarox.

Steve

2 sheds

2,529 posts

306 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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Just to be different i had no problem with green stuff over 800 miles, but to be fair that was on a car of 850 kg with 340mm discs, in the Griffith i have just gone to 1144's have to agree that the 1144s are excellent! recommend them.
Tim

cerbeboy

25 posts

281 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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i just got my cerb and its got green pads have shite brakes all the time....... i just thought i was expecting to much as my porsche has brill brakes.... i will say though when they are cold they squeal a bit and once warm they are better but not great p.s. they are only in the back thank christ......

jvaughan

6,025 posts

305 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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Green Stuff .. Love them on the Wedge

Guillotine

5,516 posts

286 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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my first set ate the drilled discs - dealler replaced and as i was off to Nurberg put reds in...
NIGHTMARE, couldn't get any heat in...only 50% brakes! greens back in, and they've been fine since.
having said that, i'm not particularly hard on brakes track or field.

Leadfoot

1,910 posts

303 months

Sunday 13th October 2002
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Greenstuff on my Griff,with 4 pot fronts,fine wet/dry/road/track - no complaints.

cirks

2,524 posts

305 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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Have to agree with Steve (don't think it is just because we have the same brake setup). Greenstuff were horrible on the 450 - never inspired confidence whether hot or cold and did the disks absolutely no good whatsoever. Now switched to 1144s and even before they are bedded in properly they feel better. I have yet to use them on track but they can't be worse than the EBCs!

shpub

8,507 posts

294 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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cirks said: Have to agree with Steve (don't think it is just because we have the same brake setup).


Used them on my Griff when I couldn't get anything else. Used them on the 520 with AP four pots, Wilwoods and current Billets so it is not a particular car thing.

Steve

Dave Marett

68 posts

285 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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Every discussion I've ever seen about green stuff pads has opinions split about 50/50 love/hate

FWIW I quite like mine, they *are* noticebly weak on their first application from cold, but I find they're fine once you've used them once or twice. I had no problems at the Nurburgring with them, not much fade and the disks still look ok. The current set are the 2nd I've put on the Griff. I had mintex M1155 on my old imreza and they were better than the EBC in terms of performance from cold, but on the track both seem pretty similar.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

297 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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You've got me thinking now. I thought it was a simple choice - Green Stuff - one of those standard Mobil 1, Optimax, S02/3 type questions. There's bound to be people with different opinions, but popular choice is usually tried and tested and ok with the majority.

Now after my last track day, I well and truely chewed up my front pads (& disks - need I say more ). I replaced with plain Lockhead disks and EBC green pads and must say have no complaints for road use. With another track day looming in November, I'm considering what to do with the rears. Although the pads were new approx 4k miles ago, I feel I need to take precautions.

If Mintex 1144s are better then I'd like to try them. But will this give me a brake imbalance towards the rear ?

Also can anyone advise on the part numbers (EBC / Mintex) for the rear pads for a '96 Chimaera 500. I know the fronts are EBC2473 (as for the Griff) if that helps. Any good mail order web sites for these?

Thanks, John.

david beer

Original Poster:

3,982 posts

289 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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Thanks for the replies. The disc are brand new drilled etc from Peninsula. The cold performance didnt bother me too much, but this wet 5 second delay is right dangerous. I will speak to them and see what they say.

Dave Marett

68 posts

285 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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david beer said: Thanks for the replies. The disc are brand new drilled etc from Peninsula. The cold performance didnt bother me too much, but this wet 5 second delay is right dangerous. I will speak to them and see what they say.


Yeah, that sounds plain wrong - mine are fine in the rain,

craigalsop

1,991 posts

290 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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david beer said: Thanks for the replies. The disc are brand new drilled etc from Peninsula. The cold performance didnt bother me too much, but this wet 5 second delay is right dangerous. I will speak to them and see what they say.
Hi David, I have EBC Turbogroove disks + EBC Green Pads & have never come across wet braking problems, & I drive frequently in the wet. I find that the first brake application is slightly down on power, after that no problems for the rest of the drive.

Dave Marett

68 posts

285 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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[Also can anyone advise on the part numbers (EBC / Mintex) for the rear pads for a '96 Chimaera 500. I know the fronts are EBC2473 (as for the Griff) if that helps. Any good mail order web sites for these?

Thanks, John.


I don't know about part numbers, but I got my green stuff from peninsula who sent me the right ones first time.

www.peninsulauto.co.uk



danger mouse

3,828 posts

283 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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I haven't read this thread all the way down, so I won't say much except that: I've had Green stuff pads on Twink for over a year now and they're ace.

They took a little while to bed-in, and they're a bit poo when they're completetly frozen.

Other than that they feel like they rip the wheels off the car, especially compared to the OEM ones. They last ages, and don't eat good discs.

God knows what the Red stuff ones do when they're warm.


Mouse

I need some new ones soon, if anyone has some for an '89 crx kickin' around...?

shpub

8,507 posts

294 months

Monday 14th October 2002
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They last ages


I agree. They did on my cars... but only because the discs wore away first... And before you say they were crap discs, never had the problem with Tarox, Mintex or Ferodos.

It's a choice thing. I'm just glad I don't use them anymore as I have found alternatives. Been there. Done that. Seen the skid marks.

david beer

Original Poster:

3,982 posts

289 months

Saturday 2nd November 2002
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Dont want to bore the pants off anyone but, just fitted a new set and they are the same, crap in the wet unless you keep them dry. EBC say nobody else has had problems, which of course i can believe. So maybe its my air ram? It has been on for 18 months with normal pads,no problems, but maybe its a marginal thing, i will have to pop it off for a trial.

shpub

8,507 posts

294 months

Saturday 2nd November 2002
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david beer said: Dont want to bore the pants off anyone but, just fitted a new set and they are the same, crap in the wet unless you keep them dry. EBC say nobody else has had problems, which of course i can believe. So maybe its my air ram? It has been on for 18 months with normal pads,no problems, but maybe its a marginal thing, i will have to pop it off for a trial.


I know a lot of people who have had big problems with these pads that have been solved by changing to another manufacturer.