Broadband speed.

[cayman-black]

So i,m trying to get a broadband deal but because i will be living in the country i have only been able to get speeds around 5.4 to 10mb/s max.
How bad will this be ? Thx.
Forgot to add it will only be my desktop and the wifes iPad and used for nothing to serious, mainly i,m on here.

[mmm-five]

What speed do you have now?

I'd consider anything below about 30mbps to be poor nowadays. Yes, I know some people are only getting 1mbps - but I wouldn't call that 'broadband'...more like dial-up.

For emails and browsing it may be fine - but you'll be paying £30+ for the piss-poor internet & line rental - when you may be able (if you need it) to get 4/5g broadband for a similar price. Of course, the speeds/availability will depend on your location.

I can get 100+mbps on 4G and 200+mbps on 5G...but this is in the suburbs of a major city.

4G


5G

Edited by mmm-five on Saturday 28th August 12:06

[essayer]

One of the 4G home broadband packages is worth a try, I’m paying £30/mo to get unlimited broadband with Three, and we’re about a mile from a mast so get 60mbps down / 10 mbps up just with the hub sat on a windowsill.
If it’s rubbish you can return in 14 days.

Also worth checking whether Gigaclear are installing locally - their website might indicate - that’ll bring fibre to the property

[Northernboy]

cayman-black said:

So i,m trying to get a broadband deal but because i will be living in the country i have only been able to get speeds around 5.4 to 10mb/s max.
How bad will this be ? Thx.
Forgot to add it will only be my desktop and the wifes iPad and used for nothing to serious, mainly i,m on here.

You can watch films etc at that rate, but with a bit of a wait to get going. It’s more than enough for browsing and watching porn.

If you’re willing to spend a bit more money then Starlink satellite system is really good. Rock solid 100Mb/s but £90 per month plus £500 for thé kit.

[e-honda]

5meg you might feel a bit limited, you might find streaming isn't in HD, or if it is then its taking up your entire bandwidth, 10meg you should be ok most of the time, you won't be able to stream in ultra HD or use cloud based gaming platform but its not a huge loss really.
If you can get most of your TV from an aerial or satellite dish then 10 meg will rarely limit you.

[Dodsy]

4g router and mobile SIM. Im with Smarty (3 network) £20 a month unlimited data, no contract.

Just check which mobile network gives best coverage by getting a free sim from each of them.

I live half a mile down a farm track and nowhere near a cell site but still get 25-30 meg.

[BorkBorkBork]

Dodsy said:

4g router and mobile SIM. Im with Smarty (3 network) £20 a month unlimited data, no contract.

Just check which mobile network gives best coverage by getting a free sim from each of them.

I live half a mile down a farm track and nowhere near a cell site but still get 25-30 meg.

I’ve been looking into this as I’m looking at moving and according to BT I’ll only get 3-5mb d/l at the new place with fibre. 4G coverage is good though. However, I’ve read that the networks will limit usage if they detect their sim in a router rather than a mobile device?

Other than BT, who seem to do a genuine unlimited 4G home package, most of the other networks appear to have usage limits on their 4G for the home?

[e-honda]

I've found in the last year or so 4g performance has tanked, particularly in rural villages. Signal strength can be great but you just can't connect to anything, this was very common 10 years ago but it seemed like those days were completely behind us.
It seems to coincide with the rise of unlimited mobile broadband packages and I can't say I am surprised.

I'd rather have a stable 10meg connection than an unreliable 40+meg connection.

[cayman-black]

Thanks for the replies so far.
I don't want anything expensive as it's only a rental so perhaps i will try and see if it works. It's £22 p/m from now and they have told me it's a bad location but as i only have low use perhaps it will be ok. They give one month to try it.TalkTalk also offered but did not tell me it is a low area. My internet now is giving me 24mbps and i have no trouble at all with this.

[mike74]

BorkBorkBork said:

However, I’ve read that the networks will limit usage if they detect their sim in a router rather than a mobile device?

Do they really do this?

And if so how do they detect the sim is in a router?
Simply by the fact that it remains in the same location receiving a 4g signal from the same transmitter all the time?

And if so can you overcome that by occasionally popping the sim into a mobile and taking it out and about so it utilises 4g signals from different transmitters?

[cayman-black]

Dodsy said:

4g router and mobile SIM. Im with Smarty (3 network) £20 a month unlimited data, no contract.

Just check which mobile network gives best coverage by getting a free sim from each of them.

I live half a mile down a farm track and nowhere near a cell site but still get 25-30 meg.

Dodsy, apparently where I am there is no 4g signal. With your setup did you buy the router then search for the best-unlimited sim?

[BorkBorkBork]

mike74 said:

BorkBorkBork said:

However, I’ve read that the networks will limit usage if they detect their sim in a router rather than a mobile device?

Do they really do this?

And if so how do they detect the sim is in a router?
Simply by the fact that it remains in the same location receiving a 4g signal from the same transmitter all the time?

And if so can you overcome that by occasionally popping the sim into a mobile and taking it out and about so it utilises 4g signals from different transmitters?

No idea how they detect it. But it’s telling that most of the networks don’t offer unlimited data on their 4G home deals.

[Scabutz]

Christ 10mbps. That's 3rd world speeds. My condolences

[cayman-black]

So i have found out my neighbours are with BT and seem ok with it but some other locals have Airband and are happy with this.

[Dodsy]

mike74 said:

BorkBorkBork said:

However, I’ve read that the networks will limit usage if they detect their sim in a router rather than a mobile device?

Do they really do this?

And if so how do they detect the sim is in a router?
Simply by the fact that it remains in the same location receiving a 4g signal from the same transmitter all the time?

And if so can you overcome that by occasionally popping the sim into a mobile and taking it out and about so it utilises 4g signals from different transmitters?

They can tell if its in a router or if is being used by tethering in a phone. The device tells the network what it is. All the operators offer a data sim or they just allow it.

Other question about usage and limits for amount of data ,3and Smarty are totally unlimited , i get through about 300gig of data a month have done for about 18 months.

Other operators have usage limits on ‘unlimited’ but i think its around 600gig a month.

[Dodsy]

cayman-black said:

Dodsy said:

4g router and mobile SIM. Im with Smarty (3 network) £20 a month unlimited data, no contract.

Just check which mobile network gives best coverage by getting a free sim from each of them.

I live half a mile down a farm track and nowhere near a cell site but still get 25-30 meg.

Dodsy, apparently where I am there is no 4g signal. With your setup did you buy the router then search for the best-unlimited sim?

I just ordered a free SIM from each network to test

[cayman-black]

Dodsy said:

I just ordered a free SIM from each network to test

Thanks for the reply Dodsy. I do have to buy myself the router first though i take it? any recommendations?
Sorry, this is new to me. thx.

[insert coin]

I moved into a temporary flat last year and got myself one of these and it worked perfectly, I’m back at home now and it gets used in my caravan.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZFSX8LB/ref=cm_sw_r... via @AmazonUK

[e-honda]

mike74 said:

Do they really do this?

And if so how do they detect the sim is in a router?
Simply by the fact that it remains in the same location receiving a 4g signal from the same transmitter all the time?

And if so can you overcome that by occasionally popping the sim into a mobile and taking it out and about so it utilises 4g signals from different transmitters?

They detect it in many ways, often your device tells on you, it reports that it is tethering or is a router to the network, this is especially common if it was ISP supplied.

They can also use device finger printing to blacklist known router identifiers or whitelist known phone identifiers.

Slightly more sneaky is TTL inspection. IP packets have a time to live number for maximum number of hops, this is decremented at every hop, including the local router. Default TTL of 64 is common on mobile devices 128 is default for Windows 10, so traffic hitting the ISP with just under 64 or 128 was almost certainly routed via the device rather than originating on it.

They can get even more invasive with deep packet inspection, and this can often be used to fool speed tests by whitelisting indicators for well known speed tests.

[cayman-black]

insert coin said:

I moved into a temporary flat last year and got myself one of these and it worked perfectly, I’m back at home now and it gets used in my caravan.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZFSX8LB/ref=cm_sw_r... via @AmazonUK

Thanks insert.I will take a look.