Advice for the Older Investor!
Advice for the Older Investor!
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The Mad Monk

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11,454 posts

146 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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What shal I do?

What about if you haven't got long term? Lets say you are near 90 than 80? Money scattered over Premium Bonds, ISAs, small amount with Vanguard. No real structure with investments. Perhaps £100k to invest?

Pile it all in Vanguard?

dingg

4,537 posts

248 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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Just enjoy spending it?

Phooey

13,809 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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Sheepshanks

40,965 posts

148 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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Whatever you do, get it together in as few places as possible - speaking from experience, sorting out multiple accounts after someone passes is a right palava.

valiant

14,148 posts

189 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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Invest it at 90?

Are you serious? Unless you want to keep it for the kids or grandkids just get it spent!

Might as well go out with a smile on your face…

Groat

5,637 posts

140 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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valiant said:
Invest it at 90?

Are you serious? Unless you want to keep it for the kids or grandkids just get it spent!

Might as well go out with a smile on your face…
Serious question.....what would you spend it on? (giving it away doesn't count)

bristolbaron

5,374 posts

241 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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If I reach that age I won’t even be buying green bananas.

PM3

1,193 posts

89 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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Groat said:
valiant said:
Invest it at 90?

Are you serious? Unless you want to keep it for the kids or grandkids just get it spent!

Might as well go out with a smile on your face…
Serious question.....what would you spend it on? (giving it away doesn't count)
At that age , maybe a decent world cruise with all bells and whistles . At my age right now not my thing , but I could envisage if I make mid 80s

Stella Tortoise

3,155 posts

172 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
What shal I do?

What about if you haven't got long term? Lets say you are near 90 than 80? Money scattered over Premium Bonds, ISAs, small amount with Vanguard. No real structure with investments. Perhaps £100k to invest?

Pile it all in Vanguard?
You’re nearly 90?

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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Get it spent, first class world cruise, a Lambo.

I wouldn’t be investing in my mid 80’s!

forest172

763 posts

235 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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My mum and dad are in their early 70’s and just got them to invest their largish cash ISAs recently that where scattered everywhere. They can comfortably live on their pensions. They decided to go for LS40% but already done quite well

They couldn’t spend it if they tried

BlackG7R

724 posts

210 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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bristolbaron said:
If I reach that age I won’t even be buying green bananas.
Ha ha, brilliant !! :-)

The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

11,454 posts

146 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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Stella Tortoise said:
The Mad Monk said:
What shal I do?

What about if you haven't got long term? Lets say you are near 90 than 80? Money scattered over Premium Bonds, ISAs, small amount with Vanguard. No real structure with investments. Perhaps £100k to invest?

Pile it all in Vanguard?
You’re nearly 90?
Well, nearer 90 than 80 mans having completed 85 years, so.....

I can express it as neare 100 than 70, does that help?

Stella Tortoise

3,155 posts

172 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
Well, nearer 90 than 80 mans having completed 85 years, so.....

I can express it as neare 100 than 70, does that help?
I wonder if you are the oldest person on PH?

bitchstewie

67,398 posts

239 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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No nice way to say this so apologies smile

Just think risk/reward i.e. to try and grow it quickly means you could also lose it quickly.

On paper it should come back but that takes time.

There are more cautious investment options where they probably won't grow as quickly but hopefully there isn't as much risk on the downside.

I'd think what are your goals if you do invest it and also do you definitely mean investing and not saving i.e. if you put £100K in do you expect to see at least £100K in there if you ever need to dip into it?

The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

11,454 posts

146 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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bhstewie said:
No nice way to say this so apologies smile

Just think risk/reward i.e. to try and grow it quickly means you could also lose it quickly.

On paper it should come back but that takes time.

There are more cautious investment options where they probably won't grow as quickly but hopefully there isn't as much risk on the downside.

I'd think what are your goals if you do invest it and also do you definitely mean investing and not saving i.e. if you put £100K in do you expect to see at least £100K in there if you ever need to dip into it?
Thank you.

I have enough ready access money for any unforseen eventualities, so I should really tidy up my investments, probably get the bulk of them under one organisation - say, Vanguard. Or does it make more more sense to keep them in different holdings in different companies?

I am not looking for a quick, high rate return, that would, I think, be foolish.

BorkBorkBork

731 posts

80 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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bristolbaron said:
If I reach that age I won’t even be buying green bananas.
That tickled me. biggrin

Percy Cushion

1,271 posts

249 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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I'd say don't focus on the provider, such as Vanguard, instead focus on what they are invested in. If you go down the Vanguard route, I recommend limiting your exposure to equities (share) and invest in safer assets such as bonds. That way you should see reasonable growth without higher risk.

bitchstewie

67,398 posts

239 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
Thank you.

I have enough ready access money for any unforseen eventualities, so I should really tidy up my investments, probably get the bulk of them under one organisation - say, Vanguard. Or does it make more more sense to keep them in different holdings in different companies?

I am not looking for a quick, high rate return, that would, I think, be foolish.
I'm not sure of too many ways to consolidate things down once you get to a certain point.

Vanguard is sensible for stocks and shares and I wouldn't worry about them going anywhere as a business.

Premium Bonds are sensible and of course you have to use NS&I for those.

If the other ISA's are cash ISA's I guess you've the option to either consolidate those down into one cash ISA provider or you could bring them into a S&S ISA at Vanguard but then you're moving from cash (no risk bar inflation) to something that carries some risk.

Not sure you get away from needing several accounts with different providers though I certainly haven't found a way that I'd be happy with.

mikeiow

8,149 posts

159 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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BorkBorkBork said:
bristolbaron said:
If I reach that age I won’t even be buying green bananas.
That tickled me. biggrin
I'd stick it all on red.
Or black.
Either way, my investments at that time of life would worry less about market growth, & more about shorter term fun!

(no offence, OP: congrats on your longevity as a PHer!!)