don't you just buy a Tesla?
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Looking to put an EV on order for early next year to make the BIK savings while still available.
I did a test drive of an Ioniq 5 at the weekend and although impressed by the ride/ space, to be honest i found the interior a little low rent (lots of plastics) and also the sat nav and infotainment disappointing.
A premium model Ioniq 5 is £41,945.00 before options for a 298 mile advertised range.
A standard range model 3 is £40,990.00 before options for a 278 mile range and access to the supercharger network
A bmw i4 is £51,905.00 before options for a 365 miles range
A mustang mach e is £41,330.00 for a 273 mile range
with access to the super charger network, don't you just buy the Tesla? Thoughts would be appreciated.
I did a test drive of an Ioniq 5 at the weekend and although impressed by the ride/ space, to be honest i found the interior a little low rent (lots of plastics) and also the sat nav and infotainment disappointing.
A premium model Ioniq 5 is £41,945.00 before options for a 298 mile advertised range.
A standard range model 3 is £40,990.00 before options for a 278 mile range and access to the supercharger network
A bmw i4 is £51,905.00 before options for a 365 miles range
A mustang mach e is £41,330.00 for a 273 mile range
with access to the super charger network, don't you just buy the Tesla? Thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm in the same position as you with a slightly wider set of choices and because of lead times not that long to think about it.
I'm going to test a Q4 etron for three days, I want to test a Tesla and a Polestar. Should I even be considering a mach e?
I could conceivably put £60 of my own money in and get the larger Etron.
Unless you're going to be doing a lot of non commuting/local miles in the EV you buy the charging network becomes less of a differentiator.
I'm going to test a Q4 etron for three days, I want to test a Tesla and a Polestar. Should I even be considering a mach e?
I could conceivably put £60 of my own money in and get the larger Etron.
Unless you're going to be doing a lot of non commuting/local miles in the EV you buy the charging network becomes less of a differentiator.
The competitor to the cars mentioned is the Model Y, which is likely to be quite a bit more expensive when it eventually becomes available in the UK. The Model S and X are already much more expensive.
If you want a low saloon car with a conventional boot then the Model 3 makes sense. Otherwise the CUV or SUV format means the others might be better, depending on requirements.
If a Model Y was about 50k and was available I'd probably get one. But it isn't.
If you want a low saloon car with a conventional boot then the Model 3 makes sense. Otherwise the CUV or SUV format means the others might be better, depending on requirements.
If a Model Y was about 50k and was available I'd probably get one. But it isn't.
I don't have set requirements really. I'm quite drawn to the low 0-60 times of some of the EVs. And I understand that the Polestar is practical enough. The version of the Q4 I'd get does 0-60 in about 6 seconds which is quick enough, but I'd never normally consider a smallish SUV over a saloon car.
- You seem to put range on top of everything, if range and SuC are everything you're worried about, Tesla is still #1.
- jason61c will be along any minute now to tell you how buying a Tesla equates to condemning your firstborn to perdition.
But for most of your use, how often will you use more than 200 miles?
gangzoom said:
Have you missed the mammoth tread(s) on here about Tesla going bankrupt any day now?
Many on here will tell you why you shouldn't touch any Tesla with a barge pole
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Yawn…Many on here will tell you why you shouldn't touch any Tesla with a barge pole
.Perhaps you should mention your Tesla is the most unreliable car you have ever owned?
When someone asks a question, a balanced response is generally appreciated
Itsallicanafford said:
Looking to put an EV on order for early next year to make the BIK savings while still available.
I did a test drive of an Ioniq 5 at the weekend and although impressed by the ride/ space, to be honest i found the interior a little low rent (lots of plastics) and also the sat nav and infotainment disappointing.
A premium model Ioniq 5 is £41,945.00 before options for a 298 mile advertised range.
A standard range model 3 is £40,990.00 before options for a 278 mile range and access to the supercharger network
A bmw i4 is £51,905.00 before options for a 365 miles range
A mustang mach e is £41,330.00 for a 273 mile range
with access to the super charger network, don't you just buy the Tesla? Thoughts would be appreciated.
You could, but how much are you likely to need to supercharge? There are plenty of other charging networks and the volume of locations is increasing but Tesla still have the edge in most parts of the country. For context though, recent lands end to John o’groats record attempt used non Tesla chargers more than Tesla ones. Tesla rapid chargers also have high peak figures but cars from other makes are iften faster fir a big charge. In practice though, anything that can charge over 100kw is probably fast enough for most.I did a test drive of an Ioniq 5 at the weekend and although impressed by the ride/ space, to be honest i found the interior a little low rent (lots of plastics) and also the sat nav and infotainment disappointing.
A premium model Ioniq 5 is £41,945.00 before options for a 298 mile advertised range.
A standard range model 3 is £40,990.00 before options for a 278 mile range and access to the supercharger network
A bmw i4 is £51,905.00 before options for a 365 miles range
A mustang mach e is £41,330.00 for a 273 mile range
with access to the super charger network, don't you just buy the Tesla? Thoughts would be appreciated.
Tesla is almost a lifestyle choice. Everything they do is different to what you may be used to, and that’s a mix of good and bad. The frequent software updates can add stuff to cars, but also gives them an excuse to roll out incomplete or buggy code. Some take pleasure on “what’s coming..” with Tesla despite waiting years for it. Others prefer a car that does what it says on the tin, and the controls don’t all move around in the screen after an update. Tesla auto wipers and headlights are “work in progress”, on a German car they are the finished article.
So Tesla can both be a refreshing change from the way auto has been for years, or a step into the dark and a PIA. My wife gets frustrated with simpl,e stuff not working well on the Tesla, she normally drives a high spec Bmw which does everything our Tesla does and more technically but other than the odd feature rolled out iver the air like alexa integration, stuff like it’s version of autopilot will never try and be self driving. You can place your bets in whether a Tesla you buy today ever will. If you like fart noises, the Tesla though would win.
I’m also in the same predicament.
I’ve been looking at the Tesla, Polestar 2 and potentially the Audi e-tron, although I think I’ve eliminated the Audi.
I love the Polestar, it’s different but not so much that it takes me out of my comfort zone. Challenge is that they are only available new with a 5 month lead time.
I’ve been looking at the Tesla, Polestar 2 and potentially the Audi e-tron, although I think I’ve eliminated the Audi.
I love the Polestar, it’s different but not so much that it takes me out of my comfort zone. Challenge is that they are only available new with a 5 month lead time.
I didn't get a Tesla. I tested the model 3P. Technically it's fantastic. As a product its a poor car.
The ipace is much better, however I'm not keen on the looks. Same goes for the Korean and German SUV stuff.
I drove a polstar last weekend at this seemed the best EV so far.
However I'm sticking with 6 cylinder turbo diesels for now and will pop my head around the EV door in a year or two hopeful the Etron GT is within budget :-/
The ipace is much better, however I'm not keen on the looks. Same goes for the Korean and German SUV stuff.
I drove a polstar last weekend at this seemed the best EV so far.
However I'm sticking with 6 cylinder turbo diesels for now and will pop my head around the EV door in a year or two hopeful the Etron GT is within budget :-/
OP probably should also be aware GM is in the process of recalling all Bolts
https://www.wsj.com/articles/gms-chevy-bolt-recall...
There's lots of noise that Hyundai is going have to do the same with the Kona.
LG also supplies the battery cells in most VAG cars.
https://www.electrive.com/2021/04/07/kona-ev-owner...
Tesla have effectively 'hidden' their battery pack fire issue with software.
I would still buy an EV today, but I can see why plenty or people wouldn't, regardless of tax savings.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/gms-chevy-bolt-recall...
There's lots of noise that Hyundai is going have to do the same with the Kona.
LG also supplies the battery cells in most VAG cars.
https://www.electrive.com/2021/04/07/kona-ev-owner...
Tesla have effectively 'hidden' their battery pack fire issue with software.
I would still buy an EV today, but I can see why plenty or people wouldn't, regardless of tax savings.
Heres Johnny said:
Yawn…
Perhaps you should mention your Tesla is the most unreliable car you have ever owned?
When someone asks a question, a balanced response is generally appreciated
They are not unreliable but we have several clients who will not be ordering Tesla again due to shocking build quality and poor customer service. Perhaps you should mention your Tesla is the most unreliable car you have ever owned?
When someone asks a question, a balanced response is generally appreciated
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Eh? Can't you plug it in anywhere?
Don't they have adaptors?
"Plug it in" to fix it when it's broken? How does that work?Don't they have adaptors?
I know that Tesla reckon they can sort out some problems over the air/remotely, and they don't really need routine servicing, but that's not going to work for broken mechanical or trim components.
Bit of a pain driving 180 miles for a warranty repair. Even worse if they can't fix it while you wait, and you have to go back again to collect the car.
Teslas are like Apple products. It's easy to get sucked in by the hype but in reality they are mediocre products, and over-priced for what they are.
Also note that Tesla is opening up its supercharger network to other vehicles. In practice though it's not that big of a deal, lots of people do cross-Europe trips without issue using other charge networks. Have a look on Zap Map and turn off the Tesla chargers, you will see that there are plenty of alternatives in most places.
Also have a play with A Better Route Planner https://abetterrouteplanner.com/ and you will probably find that you have under-estimated how far that range will take you, because most people do.
Also note that Tesla is opening up its supercharger network to other vehicles. In practice though it's not that big of a deal, lots of people do cross-Europe trips without issue using other charge networks. Have a look on Zap Map and turn off the Tesla chargers, you will see that there are plenty of alternatives in most places.
Also have a play with A Better Route Planner https://abetterrouteplanner.com/ and you will probably find that you have under-estimated how far that range will take you, because most people do.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
clockworks said:
I wouldn't buy a Tesla because the nearest service centre is 3.5 hours from where I live. Pretty much every other volume marque has main dealers within 40 minutes.
Eh? Can't you plug it in anywhere? Don't they have adaptors?
Yes, Tesla's can be plugged in just about everywhere. They are serviced by a Tesla service center. Although as mentioned, they have a mobile service that comes to your home, which is convenient.
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