Dacre as Chair of Ofcom, if at first you don't succeed..
Dacre as Chair of Ofcom, if at first you don't succeed..
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bitchstewie

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64,323 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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This is pretty funny.

Ministers struggle to find people to interview Paul Dacre for Ofcom job

The Government wanted him to get the job and the first time of trying the committee they appointed said he wasn't suitable so they decided to just start the process again and now they can't find anyone willing to interview him for fear of the damage it would do to their reputation hehe

Boringvolvodriver

11,321 posts

66 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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bhstewie said:
This is pretty funny.

Ministers struggle to find people to interview Paul Dacre for Ofcom job

The Government wanted him to get the job and the first time of trying the committee they appointed said he wasn't suitable so they decided to just start the process again and now they can't find anyone willing to interview him for fear of the damage it would do to their reputation hehe
If it wasn’t so obvious what the government were trying to do, it would be hilarious!

As it is, it is rather a telling indictment on how government actually works.

hidetheelephants

33,786 posts

216 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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Dacre is a stheel who makes Piers Morgan look like Bertrand Russell. When will the wheels fall off this clown car of a government?

bitchstewie

Original Poster:

64,323 posts

233 months

wolfracesonic

8,877 posts

150 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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What’s coming next ? ‘Paul Dacre appointed head of panel to interview Paul Dacre for Ofcom post’.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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I never heard of anyone flunking a quango before.

Murph7355

40,881 posts

279 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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hidetheelephants said:
Dacre is a stheel who makes Piers Morgan look like Bertrand Russell. When will the wheels fall off this clown car of a government?
2024, assuming there's a better alternative by then (don't hold your breath).

808 Estate

2,570 posts

114 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Lets just hope he get rejected a second time. biggrin

Electro1980

8,922 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Boringvolvodriver said:
bhstewie said:
This is pretty funny.

Ministers struggle to find people to interview Paul Dacre for Ofcom job

The Government wanted him to get the job and the first time of trying the committee they appointed said he wasn't suitable so they decided to just start the process again and now they can't find anyone willing to interview him for fear of the damage it would do to their reputation hehe
If it wasn’t so obvious what the government were trying to do, it would be hilarious!

As it is, it is rather a telling indictment on how THIS government actually works.
Fixed that for you.

sugerbear

6,307 posts

181 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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808 Estate said:
Lets just hope he get rejected a second time. biggrin
Third time lucky maybe?

frisbee

5,481 posts

133 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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I’m disgusted that this thread has reached 10 posts and there has been no mention of how much his house is worth.

Hopefully when he is the chair of OFCOM travesties like this will result in long prison sentences for all involved.

JuanCarlosFandango

9,556 posts

94 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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Stupid. It took the left decades to monopolise these institutions, you can't just parachute your mates in and turn it round like that.

Randy Winkman

20,871 posts

212 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Stupid. It took the left decades to monopolise these institutions, you can't just parachute your mates in and turn it round like that.
I've just looked up OFCOM to see who is the current chair. I've found it's Maggie Carver CBE who is also chair of the Racecourse Association. Wikipedia tells me that her father is Dr Ivan Hall, an architectural historian and her mother is Elisabeth Hall who it says came from a "distinguished" Hamburg family.

More about her is on this link though it doesn't look that leftie to me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Carver



JuanCarlosFandango

9,556 posts

94 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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Randy Winkman said:
I've just looked up OFCOM to see who is the current chair. I've found it's Maggie Carver CBE who is also chair of the Racecourse Association. Wikipedia tells me that her father is Dr Ivan Hall, an architectural historian and her mother is Elisabeth Hall who it says came from a "distinguished" Hamburg family.

More about her is on this link though it doesn't look that leftie to me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Carver
They didn't appoint a bunch of angry coal miners or dock workers.

Countdown

47,334 posts

219 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Stupid. It took the left decades to monopolise these institutions, you can't just parachute your mates in and turn it round like that.
How many decades has the "Left" been in power for?

JuanCarlosFandango

9,556 posts

94 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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Countdown said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
Stupid. It took the left decades to monopolise these institutions, you can't just parachute your mates in and turn it round like that.
How many decades has the "Left" been in power for?
It didn't happen one day but I think over the course of the 20th century it became pretty rare to find conservatives (though not Conservatives, necessarily) in positions of influence in education, broadcasting, arts and the civil service. Big business and even the police came on side during the Blair era.


JuanCarlosFandango

9,556 posts

94 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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That isn't a moan about evil lefties having some 100 year plan by the way. It's as much a failure of the right to make a moral and intellectual case for itself, rather than just seeing conservatism as a brake on an irresistible force. Even Thatcherism was probably 80% economic pragmatism and 10% populist jingoism with the remainder being some genuinely conservative ideas, to the great embarrassment of the party leadership. Numbers plucked from thin air.

The curious way in which the left managed to completely disassociate itself from the catastrophe of the first half of the 20th century and in particular the Third Reich probably explains most of this. Despite the Nazis being an explicitly socialist party and collectivist in every policy it was the racism which really stuck and I think made most on the right a bit more circumspect about advancing their ideas, especially on nation, identity, race and culture. And rightly so.

What it didn't do in tandem was to make the left any more circumspect about a large, powerful state or their own version of social engineering. So long as it was explicitly not Nazi it was fine.

I don't think such an imbalance is healthy. As in party politics ideas need to be tested against vigorous opposition and pitted against real alternatives not merely fiddled with at the margins.

kevinon

2,587 posts

83 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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The idea that lefties have made a 'deep state'-type power base has never been evidenced.

The elite look like a very interconnected cadre to me. The next Prime Minister is probably (again) an Etonian, then Oxford PPE, then PR or Daddy's hedge fund type of guy. These people have very narrow life experiences and views. They often lack empathy, so how could they be lefties?

I would be less certain on the BBC - where it has a wider range of people, and as they have not gone into finance, law and other lucrative professions, they may be rather public-spirited, dreamy, storyteller type of people. I can see that giving rise to a left-wing appreciation of equality and fairness.

But media owned by billionaires.? Are they really left-wing? The Barclay Brothers who own the Telegraph? Rupert Murdoch - Australian / British / American owner of the Sun / Sunday Times?










rxtx

6,047 posts

233 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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I don't see this as a "left" or "right" issue. That is a limited view in my opinion. They're all at it. This is just "get one of our friends in". Nothing changes, everything stays the same.

Ofcom have been st forever, DAB being one of the bigger, more recent failings.

Countdown

47,334 posts

219 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
That isn't a moan about evil lefties having some 100 year plan by the way. It's as much a failure of the right to make a moral and intellectual case for itself, rather than just seeing conservatism as a brake on an irresistible force. Even Thatcherism was probably 80% economic pragmatism and 10% populist jingoism with the remainder being some genuinely conservative ideas, to the great embarrassment of the party leadership. Numbers plucked from thin air.

The curious way in which the left managed to completely disassociate itself from the catastrophe of the first half of the 20th century and in particular the Third Reich probably explains most of this. Despite the Nazis being an explicitly socialist party and collectivist in every policy it was the racism which really stuck and I think made most on the right a bit more circumspect about advancing their ideas, especially on nation, identity, race and culture. And rightly so.

What it didn't do in tandem was to make the left any more circumspect about a large, powerful state or their own version of social engineering. So long as it was explicitly not Nazi it was fine.

I don't think such an imbalance is healthy. As in party politics ideas need to be tested against vigorous opposition and pitted against real alternatives not merely fiddled with at the margins.
If you consider Nazis to be "left wing" who would classify as being on the "Far right" of the Political spectrum?