Aston Martin Carbon Roof lacqeer peeling

[Aghanimir]

i have a 2017 Vanquish with carbon roof - noticed peeling in small areas at edge. anyone else with similar issue ? is this covered by AM body warranty ?

[MightyBadger]

You have rang and asked them?

[moveover]

Yep. My detailer has just noticed the same thing. Out of warranty so will investigate alternatives

[AdamV12V]

moveover said:

Yep. My detailer has just noticed the same thing. Out of warranty so will investigate alternatives

Are you answering on behalf of the other guy to whom the question was asked?


Relating to yours - is the lacquer on the CF roof not covered under the 10 year warranty? I didn't think any CF roofs were available on the Gaydon AM's more than 10 years go???

[Aghanimir]

Thanks - my AM dealership taken photos and has submitted for approval under warranty. My car is 2017 so under the 10 yr

[moveover]

Hadn’t considered the paint warranty of 10 years. Might try to take up with dealership but I know it will be a torturous process.

[Aghanimir]

If damage to your roof is not from stone chip or other impact damage - the 10 yr warranty should apply. Good luck via your AM dealer

[Astontony]

It was by pure luck I stumbled upon this post and it is great that I did.
I too have some pitting on the carbon roof at the front about 3 inches in from the screen.
Nothing to do with stone chips. I have had the roof carbon wrapped to protect it it almost looks the same but not quite the perfect colour match or depth and sheen.
After seeing this post I have sent photos to our Aston Dealer and they are assessing whether it forms part of the 10year paint warranty mine is a 2014.5 Vanquish.
Fingers crossed it does qualify and to sweeten the deal I will also get my front spolier repaired as it has some scrape marks on the under side and a wear hole and I will pay for this so it will be a win win.

[8Tech]

I believe that will be such an enormously expensive repair, AM will spare no effort to get out of paying for it. Where I have suffered stone damage or any other surface damage to CF parts, I have painted them black. You still have the advantage of strength and weight and only lose some bragging rights.

[AstonV]

8Tech said:

I believe that will be such an enormously expensive repair, AM will spare no effort to get out of paying for it. Where I have suffered stone damage or any other surface damage to CF parts, I have painted them black. You still have the advantage of strength and weight and only lose some bragging rights.

Why would simple peeling of clear coat on CF or any painted surface be so enormously expensive? I would be a simple process of sanding it down and re coating with a good automotive clear coat.

[MightyBadger]

AstonV said:

Why would simple peeling of clear coat on CF or any painted surface be so enormously expensive? I would be a simple process of sanding it down and re coating with a good automotive clear coat.

If its only the clear coat dings away will sort that.

Would be tempted to get it covered in a really fake looking carbon wrap and then you can post it in the sleeper thread

Edited by MightyBadger on Friday 10th September 17:49

[8Tech]

AstonV said:

8Tech said:

I believe that will be such an enormously expensive repair, AM will spare no effort to get out of paying for it. Where I have suffered stone damage or any other surface damage to CF parts, I have painted them black. You still have the advantage of strength and weight and only lose some bragging rights.

Why would simple peeling of clear coat on CF or any painted surface be so enormously expensive? I would be a simple process of sanding it down and re coating with a good automotive clear coat.

Because as soon as you get down to the fibres, it will tear up the surface. There is no sandable depth in the fibres like there is in clearcoated paint. The roof would have also been vacuum formed to prevent air in the gel in an autoclave.

[AstonV]

8Tech said:

Because as soon as you get down to the fibres, it will tear up the surface. There is no sandable depth in the fibres like there is in clearcoated paint. The roof would have also been vacuum formed to prevent air in the gel in an autoclave.

I understand that. You don't sand into the fibers, that would be stupid. That would be like sanding past clear coat and into the paint on you car. But to say it's not fixable and needs to be painted black is ridiculous.

[Astontony]

AstonV said:

I understand that. You don't sand into the fibers, that would be stupid. That would be like sanding past clear coat and into the paint on you car. But to say it's not fixable and needs to be painted black is ridiculous.

I have actually covered my roof with a new fandangled carbon wrap but it isn't as nice to look at as the real thing. From chatting to various auto painters they would gently sand the roof and re clear coat it or another option is a resin coat. As lond as the carbon fibres aren't compromised it should be a sand mask and paint job.

[Astontony]

AstonV said:

I understand that. You don't sand into the fibers, that would be stupid. That would be like sanding past clear coat and into the paint on you car. But to say it's not fixable and needs to be painted black is ridiculous.

I have actually covered my roof with a new fandangled carbon wrap but it isn't as nice to look at as the real thing. From chatting to various auto painters they would gently sand the roof and re clear coat it or another option is a resin coat. As lond as the carbon fibres aren't compromised it should be a sand mask and paint job.

[8Tech]

AstonV said:

8Tech said:

Because as soon as you get down to the fibres, it will tear up the surface. There is no sandable depth in the fibres like there is in clearcoated paint. The roof would have also been vacuum formed to prevent air in the gel in an autoclave.

I understand that. You don't sand into the fibers, that would be stupid. That would be like sanding past clear coat and into the paint on you car. But to say it's not fixable and needs to be painted black is ridiculous.

You can clearly see that the fibres are compromised from the example given, even though its not the OP's photo. Hoping to float in some clearcoat simply is not going to return the finish previously enjoyed. Lets see the results if it gets clearcoated and decide then?

[Tyndall]

Very old bump here. I've noticed the edges of my CF roof are showing some peeling/delaminating. My dealer doesn't seem to know of a 10 year warranty which would cover it. Can anyone advise or point me in the right direction of the relevant warranty docs? It's a 2015 Vanquish.

Thanks

[Jazzy Jag]

Astontony said:

It was by pure luck I stumbled upon this post and it is great that I did.
I too have some pitting on the carbon roof at the front about 3 inches in from the screen.
Nothing to do with stone chips. I have had the roof carbon wrapped to protect it it almost looks the same but not quite the perfect colour match or depth and sheen.
After seeing this post I have sent photos to our Aston Dealer and they are assessing whether it forms part of the 10year paint warranty mine is a 2014.5 Vanquish.
Fingers crossed it does qualify and to sweeten the deal I will also get my front spolier repaired as it has some scrape marks on the under side and a wear hole and I will pay for this so it will be a win win.

There is no 10 year paint warranty.

There is a 10 year perforation corrosion warranty which covers body perforation from the inside out.

Paint is covered for 3 years.

[Tyndall]

Jazzy Jag said:

There is no 10 year paint warranty.

There is a 10 year perforation corrosion warranty which covers body perforation from the inside out.

Paint is covered for 3 years.

Would lacquer peel on carbon fall under perforation?

[Jazzy Jag]

Tyndall said:

Jazzy Jag said:

There is no 10 year paint warranty.

There is a 10 year perforation corrosion warranty which covers body perforation from the inside out.

Paint is covered for 3 years.

Would lacquer peel on carbon fall under perforation?

No, because it's not a hole, perforating the panel as a result of corrosion from the inside, outwards.