Double murderer released after 33 years in jail...

[GranpaB]

.....even though it was a life sentence.

What a shambles...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...

[otolith]

He should die in prison.

[amare32]

People will probably get a life sentence soon for not wearing a mask outside or vote SNP... or something equally stupid

We now live in a clown world.

However for murder you'll get a slap on the wrist because reasons...

[Pugaris]

He's been in jail for 33 years, not 15. Think OP has somehow confused the age of his victims with his sentence.

[OzzyR1]

Rights or wrongs of his release aside, hasn't he done 33 years?

[Milkyway]

At least a lot of vile offenders had the decency to die in prison.
( & some won’t) ...
I have just watched ‘Deceit’ about the Robert Stagg case.
So... Pitchfork isn’t exactly going to have a fun packed existence.

Edited by Milkyway on Wednesday 1st September 17:01

Edited by Milkyway on Wednesday 1st September 17:17

[ChocolateFrog]

Pugaris said:

He's been in jail for 33 years, not 15. Think OP has somehow confused the age of his victims with his sentence.

Yep.

Although this guy seems like a prime candidate for a whole life sentence.

He's 'only' 61, quite likely he'll go onto enjoy more freedom than his victims post incarceration.

[GranpaB]

Yes i did misread i did not have my glasses on so sorry for the wrong thread title.

Even so, he should still die in jail as someone else mentioned.

Perhaps a moderator could remove the "after 15 years in jail' please?

[btdk5]

amare32 said:

People will probably get a life sentence soon for not wearing a mask outside or vote SNP... or something equally stupid

We now live in a clown world.

However for murder you'll get a slap on the wrist because reasons...

33 years is a slap on the wrist……ok

[GranpaB]

btdk5 said:

amare32 said:

People will probably get a life sentence soon for not wearing a mask outside or vote SNP... or something equally stupid

We now live in a clown world.

However for murder you'll get a slap on the wrist because reasons...

33 years is a slap on the wrist……ok

Well, of course it isn't but life should be life regardless of how good he has been, and there have been other murderers left to rot in prison.

[Phil Dicky]

btdk5 said:

amare32 said:

People will probably get a life sentence soon for not wearing a mask outside or vote SNP... or something equally stupid

We now live in a clown world.

However for murder you'll get a slap on the wrist because reasons...

33 years is a slap on the wrist……ok

Not quite but he murdered two girls 3 years apart. Now to me that's verging on a serial killer. He was sentenced 2 years after the last killing so probably arrested 12 months earlier. The only reason more didn't die is because he was arrested. So 33 years isn't enough..he should never come out.

Edited by Phil Dicky on Wednesday 1st September 17:01

[PHlL]

This will sound callus and I wholly feel for the families involved, but fundamentally UK law allows for prisoners to become eligible for parole.

We as UK justice system operate a minimum term sentencing, which this man has served and a parole board has seen it fit to allow early release.

I'm not saying I agree with those rules, but fundamentally what has happened is within the law and sentencing guidelines.

For MP's to challenge an independent parole board is wrong. They should be working at reforming law if they do not agree with it.

[Gecko1978]

He Colin Pitchfork did 33 years, had he not been first person to be caught using DNA and indeed he did avoid capture by getting a friend to do a test for him, he would likely have killed a third time. But he was caught did 33 years and now what he get released on licence to a world that is so different to 1988 that he will barely recognise it. My guess he will drink himself to death as he is unemployable and under strict conditions.

[FunkyNige]

PHlL said:

This will sound callus and I wholly feel for the families involved, but fundamentally UK law allows for prisoners to become eligible for parole.

We as UK justice system operate a minimum term sentencing, which this man has served and a parole board has seen it fit to allow early release.

I'm not saying I agree with those rules, but fundamentally what has happened is within the law and sentencing guidelines.

For MP's to challenge an independent parole board is wrong. They should be working at reforming law if they do not agree with it.

There was a chap on the lunchtime news saying the same thing - when he was sentenced there was a different system to what we have today and there wasn't much choice but to say he would be up for parole at some point.
He's also got a lot (36 rings a bell) of restrictions on him, GPS tracking, lie detector tests, etc.

[Psycho Onion]

Life in this country should be until you die.

Then give them an assisted suicide option post sentencing.

[Vizsla]

Gecko1978 said:

He Colin Pitchfork did 33 years, had he not been first person to be caught using DNA and indeed he did avoid capture by getting a friend to do a test for him, he would likely have killed a third time. But he was caught did 33 years and now what he get released on licence to a world that is so different to 1988 that he will barely recognise it. My guess he will drink himself to death as he is unemployable and under strict conditions.

I can spare a couple of litres of antifreeze if that will help.

[Gecko1978]

Vizsla said:

Gecko1978 said:

He Colin Pitchfork did 33 years, had he not been first person to be caught using DNA and indeed he did avoid capture by getting a friend to do a test for him, he would likely have killed a third time. But he was caught did 33 years and now what he get released on licence to a world that is so different to 1988 that he will barely recognise it. My guess he will drink himself to death as he is unemployable and under strict conditions.

I can spare a couple of litres of antifreeze if that will help.

But seriously what is he going to do, no family, friends, hope of a job. Strict restrictions he might as well buy up a few liters of vodka and some paracetamol and have a 1 man party. He has zero left (you could argue still more than the two girls he killed).

[otolith]

Gecko1978 said:

But seriously what is he going to do, no family, friends, hope of a job. Strict restrictions he might as well buy up a few liters of vodka and some paracetamol and have a 1 man party. He has zero left (you could argue still more than the two girls he killed).

Live on benefits and spend his days doing whatever he pleases.

[deckster]

Psycho Onion said:

Life in this country should be until you die.

Then give them an assisted suicide option post sentencing.

Either you believe that people can change, or you don't. Either you support state-sponsored killing, or you don't.

Neither side of the argument is going to come around to the other's way of thinking.

[LargeRed]

maybe he thought he could sell his story to The News of the World.