Champagne bottle sizes
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cinque

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833 posts

311 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Please help settle a score..............

im guessing the 'larger' size bottles are biblical derivitions? However, where does the term for a 'double' bottle derive (i.e. Magnum)?


Surely not after the 80's tv detective of the same name?

munky

5,328 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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www.giantbottles.com/origins.htm

doesn't mention magnums

mr_tony

6,351 posts

298 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Champagne-(beverage)

MAgnum not biblically derived according to this...

ErnestM

11,621 posts

296 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Quarter-Bottle 6.3 fluid ounces
Half-Bottle 12.7 fluid ounces
Bottle 25.4 fluid ounces
Magnum 50.8 fluid ounces 2 bottles
Jeroboam 101.6 fluid ounces 4 bottles
Rehoboam 147 fluid ounces 6 bottles
Methuselah 196 fluid ounces 8 bottles
Salmanazar 304.8 fluid ounces 12 bottles
Balthazar 406.4 fluid ounces 16 bottles
Nebuchadnezzar 508 fluid ounces 20 bottles

---- Google says:

No one is exactly sure of the reasons why larger format bottles were given biblical names. But, according to the Champagne expert Francois Bonal, winemakers in Bordeaux had been using the name Jeroboam for the four-bottle size since 1725. (It's presumed they selected Jeroboam, the biblical founder of Israel, who ruled from 931-910 BC because he is referred to as "a man of great worth," as were the larger size bottles). Bonal also explains that a Champagne medieval poet, Eugene Destuche, mentioned several of these names in his poetry. The region of Champagne adopted the Jeroboam size and followed suit with larger format bottles developed in the 1940s, continuing the practice of selecting biblical kings and patriarchs.

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ErnestM

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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ErnestM said:

Nebuchadnezzar 508 fluid ounces 20 bottles



Want one!

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Nebuchadnezzar PI, just doesn't have the same ring to it though

cinque

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833 posts

311 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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there are two larger than the Nebuch.

18 litre / 24 bottle Solomon

27 litre / 36 bottle Primat (pronounced 'preemah') weighs 65 kilo.

looks like the 'magnum' explanation is still open?

maxf

8,444 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Nebuchadnezzar is named after the submarine thing from the Matrix. Happy to help

SlidingSideways

1,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Raify said:

ErnestM said:

Nebuchadnezzar 508 fluid ounces 20 bottles




Want one!


Yep. And a straw please.
Hic.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Taken in Montana's visitor centre in the South Island of New Zealand in Feb 2002.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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cinque said:
there are two larger than the Nebuch.

18 litre / 24 bottle Solomon

27 litre / 36 bottle Primat (pronounced 'preemah') weighs 65 kilo.

looks like the 'magnum' explanation is still open?



72 bottle 54 litre was made by Taitanger for display on the Titanic. Unfortunately its still down there .

cyberface

12,214 posts

286 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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The one in the guinness book of records is apparently called the 'Adelaide' though I can't remember how many bottles it held.

As to the sort of bottle mere mortals like myself would buy, I was told that anything above a Magnum was hand made, whereas bottles below that were mass produced (obviously, due to the volume).

Is this still true, or have Jeroboams become popular enough amongst the gangsta-Cristal-swilling fraternity to require mass production??

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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maxf said:
Nebuchadnezzar is named after the submarine thing from the Matrix. Happy to help


Which was named after the King of Baylon (well 2 kings actually). He conquered Jerusalem and rebuilt Babylon.

planetdave

9,922 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Perhaps it was because it was monks that were into champagne production. (And beer.)

OK the lot of them were off their gourds smashed to smithereens all the time.