Men are not safe

[saaby93]

Another article suggesting that men are not to be regarded as safe in the presence of women.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-58...
This time LGTBQ+ not allowed to be with women in case they are a danger.

Why no corresponding points about women transitioning to men not to be regarded as safe?
Where are the stats either way?

[JagLover]

It is simple common sense that strange males should not be in certain secure areas with vulnerable women. As all it takes is a few to be a sexual predator for the women to be at risk.

This is clearly not all spaces, but the likes of women's refuges, prisons and changing rooms.

[chrispmartha]

JagLover said:

It is simple common sense that strange males should not be in certain secure areas with vulnerable women. As all it takes is a few to be a sexual predator for the women to be at risk.

This is clearly not all spaces, but the likes of women's refuges, prisons and changing rooms.

“Strange males”?

From the article

“ "Like her, I do not believe that the vast majority of women in this country wish to allow biological men into their private enclosed spaces such as women's prisons and female toilets”

Yet all the evidence suggests he is wrong.

[saaby93]

JagLover said:

It is simple common sense that strange males should not be in certain secure areas with vulnerable women. As all it takes is a few to be a sexual predator for the women to be at risk.

This is clearly not all spaces, but the likes of women's refuges, prisons and changing rooms.

Why not worry about predatory women and vulnerable men?
There may not be very many but all the same you have to be careful so assume everyone

At the same time don't go into town because there are buses.
Some people get run over by a bus

[LargeRed]

#MEn TOO !

[Rufus Stone]

This again!

I'll summarise numerous pages of ensuing argument:

Trans women will claim they are not men so no potential danger to women. Others will disagree. No consensus will be reached.

[Jimmy No Hands]

Let it play out. After repeated instances of finding "women" having a tuggy in the next cubicle they might wake up.

[anonymous-user]

chrispmartha said:

JagLover said:

It is simple common sense that strange males should not be in certain secure areas with vulnerable women. As all it takes is a few to be a sexual predator for the women to be at risk.

This is clearly not all spaces, but the likes of women's refuges, prisons and changing rooms.

“Strange males”?

From the article

“ "Like her, I do not believe that the vast majority of women in this country wish to allow biological men into their private enclosed spaces such as women's prisons and female toilets”

Yet all the evidence suggests he is wrong.

So women wouldn’t mind this individual walking into the ladies , or sharing a cell with a female?

[chrispmartha]

Rufus Stone said:

This again!

I'll summarise numerous pages of ensuing argument:

Trans women will claim they are not men so no potential danger to women. Others will disagree. No consensus will be reached.

Yep

[chrispmartha]

Iwantafusca said:

chrispmartha said:

JagLover said:

It is simple common sense that strange males should not be in certain secure areas with vulnerable women. As all it takes is a few to be a sexual predator for the women to be at risk.

This is clearly not all spaces, but the likes of women's refuges, prisons and changing rooms.

“Strange males”?

From the article

“ "Like her, I do not believe that the vast majority of women in this country wish to allow biological men into their private enclosed spaces such as women's prisons and female toilets”

Yet all the evidence suggests he is wrong.

So women wouldn’t mind this individual walking into the ladies , or sharing a cell with a female?

Dunno, ask them

What about this person?




See how daft this posting images game is!

[saaby93]

Iwantafusca said:

So women wouldn’t mind this individual walking into the ladies , or sharing a cell with a female?

Is that someone originally assigned female but developed male indicators?

[andyA700]

There are numerous incidents where men have identified as women, in order to gain access to women's supposedly safe spaces. The fact that certain people think that this will not happen is delusional. If you let people self identify as the opposite sex, then you are allowing criminals/perverts to take advantage.
The following incident took place in a spa in the US in July. As soon as it became public knowledge, there was a flood of misinformation from pro transgender groups saying that the woman who reported the incident was lying, that she was right wing, that she was a Christian extremist.
Sadly, our own news sources (a bit of a stretch to think they still deal in truth) such as the Guardian were on the wrong side of history.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/28/anti...

Then, this news broke recently. It would appear that a 52 year old guy with previous convictions, who claims to be transgender was charged with offences related to the WiSpa.

https://abc7.com/wi-spa-indecent-exposure-protest-...

Here we have PinkNews trying to defend the pervert.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/09/03/wi-spa-los-a...

And here we have the Guardian trying to rewrite history. Turns out that the guy (who PinkNews describe as legally female) is a regustered sex offender - Oh quelle surpris!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/02/pe...

[andyA700]

saaby93 said:

Why not worry about predatory women and vulnerable men?
There may not be very many but all the same you have to be careful so assume everyone

At the same time don't go into town because there are buses.
Some people get run over by a bus

Are you serious? Did you just type that without a sneer on your face?

[Jimmy No Hands]

andyA700 said:

There are numerous incidents where men have identified as women, in order to gain access to women's supposedly safe spaces. The fact that certain people think that this will not happen is delusional. If you let people self identify as the opposite sex, then you are allowing criminals/perverts to take advantage.
The following incident took place in a spa in the US in July. As soon as it became public knowledge, there was a flood of misinformation from pro transgender groups saying that the woman who reported the incident was lying, that she was right wing, that she was a Christian extremist.
Sadly, our own news sources (a bit of a stretch to think they still deal in truth) such as the Guardian were on the wrong side of history.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/28/anti...

Then, this news broke recently. It would appear that a 52 year old guy with previous convictions, who claims to be transgender was charged with offences related to the WiSpa.

https://abc7.com/wi-spa-indecent-exposure-protest-...

Here we have PinkNews trying to defend the pervert.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/09/03/wi-spa-los-a...

And here we have the Guardian trying to rewrite history. Turns out that the guy (who PinkNews describe as legally female) is a regustered sex offender - Oh quelle surpris!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/02/pe...

Of course it will happen. There's a video circulating currently of an employee at a gym who got fired for repeatedly sneaking over to a squatting woman to sniff her arse. This is a blessing for perverts everywhere.

[saaby93]

andyA700 said:

saaby93 said:

Why not worry about predatory women and vulnerable men?
There may not be very many but all the same you have to be careful so assume everyone

At the same time don't go into town because there are buses.
Some people get run over by a bus

Are you serious? Did you just type that without a sneer on your face?

Of course no sneer - did you sneer when you typed that?
Many places now have gender free loos - is it a problem?

[anonymous-user]

chrispmartha said:

Dunno, ask them

What about this person?




See how daft this posting images game is!

They say no to men in women’s spaces , no matter how they present.

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

Iwantafusca said:

So women wouldn’t mind this individual walking into the ladies , or sharing a cell with a female?

Is that someone originally assigned female but developed male indicators?

No one is assigned anything at birth.

[chrispmartha]

Iwantafusca said:

chrispmartha said:

Dunno, ask them

What about this person?




See how daft this posting images game is!

They say no to men in women’s spaces , no matter how they present.

Do they, the link in the op suggests otherwise.

[anonymous-user]

chrispmartha said:

Iwantafusca said:

chrispmartha said:

Dunno, ask them

What about this person?




See how daft this posting images game is!

They say no to men in women’s spaces , no matter how they present.

Do they, the link in the op suggests otherwise.

Are you saying women are happy to have men in their spaces ?

[chrispmartha]

Iwantafusca said:

chrispmartha said:

Iwantafusca said:

chrispmartha said:

Dunno, ask them

What about this person?




See how daft this posting images game is!

They say no to men in women’s spaces , no matter how they present.

Do they, the link in the op suggests otherwise.

Are you saying women are happy to have men in their spaces ?

Im saying in the link in the OP a majority of women are supportive of Trans Women In women’s spaces

Anyway this will just go the same way as the other threads so

Edited by chrispmartha on Friday 10th September 08:54