speeding ticket for getting out way of ambulance
speeding ticket for getting out way of ambulance
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Wiseoldboy

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36 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Did you hear the police are prosecuting a man for speeding to get out of the way of an ambulance that had it's blue light on for an emergency, he was overtaking a slow vehicle, so he sped up to get out of the way, but as he was doing this the ambulance turned of, however the ambulance driver later confirmed the mans story, but the police wont drop it, so if you are going through Luton or Dunstable and an emergency vehicle needs to get past whether its ambulance, police or fire engine, think very carefully what to do, if you take long enough to think the emergency might be over and will therefore not need any action from you that might get you a speeding ticket or anything else the police might like to get you for .

dazren

22,612 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Do you have a newspaper/website source for this outrage, that we could read up on?

DAZ

Wiseoldboy

Original Poster:

36 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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I think it was the Bedfordshire on Sunday, tried to check but her indoors threw it out and the bin men have been, I will try to see if I can locate another copy, and let you know if Im lucky.

Disgracefull though isn't it.

Wiseoldboy

Original Poster:

36 posts

248 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Hi it was on Three Counties Radio, not in paper. You could try phoning them, or maybe ask Luton Police if they have changed their position on this yet.

tinman0

18,231 posts

262 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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this seems to be getting more common. there was the guy who pulled over on a red light and got a ticket for a fire engine or ambulance a couple of weeks ago.

i think the motto of the story is not to get out of any of the services way in future. its no good the services pleading for co-operation when motorists are getting prosecuted for doing their civil duty.

Wiseoldboy

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36 posts

248 months

Tuesday 26th July 2005
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Thanks for that Tinman,

Is there anymore of these cases. If there are enough we might be able to complain about it, something needs to change, before I risk getting a ticket, or do you think I would get done for obstruction?

dr.evil

45 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th July 2005
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About a year ago a danish police officer was caught speeding in his private car when hurrying to an ongoing robbery.
After more than 6 months of the fine was cancelled though.

Don

28,378 posts

306 months

Thursday 28th July 2005
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tinman0 said:

i think the motto of the story is not to get out of any of the services way in future. its no good the services pleading for co-operation when motorists are getting prosecuted for doing their civil duty.


Can't agree. The services need to get places. Getting out of their way is very important.

But do it legally.

They would not ask a citizen to break the law for their convenience.

TwoWheelTerror

23 posts

247 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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I find that simply pulling over to the side of the road works fine for me. Why does common sense go out the window as soon as theres a blue flashing light behind

Mr Whippy

32,156 posts

263 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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Thats it, Ambulance and Fire Services already suffer the consequences of stupid "speeding" and such policies.

Fire engines on way to and from accidents have been slowed down, now we get done for speeding up momentarily to get out of the way of emergency vehicles.

Speed bumps slow down ambulances etc etc.

It's really a total joke. Shame that Plod are being arseholes about it too. How would an ambulance driver feel if people stopped co-operating as much out on the roads in emergencies because of this, and were too late to more accidents and emergencies.
Clearly more stupid policy coming from "the top" that has no bearing on real life, like all Labour policy.

Public opinion of Plod is going downhill faster every day with news like this

Dave

jackass

135 posts

281 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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Wiseoldboy said:
I think it was the Bedfordshire on Sunday, tried to check but her indoors threw it out and the bin men have been, I will try to see if I can locate another copy, and let you know if Im lucky.

Disgracefull though isn't it.


On the A505 by any chance? by a camera van parked on the hatching in the way.

tinman0

18,231 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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TwoWheelTerror said:
I find that simply pulling over to the side of the road works fine for me. Why does common sense go out the window as soon as theres a blue flashing light behind


because sometimes it not as black and white as that. there are occasions where extrodinary things happen and thats what happened here.

tony13579

183 posts

247 months

Saturday 27th August 2005
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I emailed the scammers in my area, they confirmed Thier policy. you must not break the law to get out of the way. They said they would issue a ticket, fixed penalty and let the courts decide if there were mitigating circumstances.

A friend is currently being prosicuted for 12mph over the limit. he has tacho proving that he wasnt speeding. he has gps report proving the tacho is genuine, the camera shot slips from tarmac to truck half a second before the speed pops up on screen. the case continues. so far he has driven 1008 miles to and from court appearances. Almost a year has passed.

fighting these cases is not even handed and is beyond the skills and abillities of most people.

to fight the ambulance case would cost the person 4-5 days off work. one year of anguish and about 100 hours on the net. and I'd still put no better odds than 50-50 on winning because they don't care!

trackcar

6,453 posts

248 months

Sunday 28th August 2005
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I'll still get out of teh way for an emergancy service .. that means driving through a red light, or speeding up / stopping in an unauthorised place etc etc ..

how would you fell if you'd contributed to the death of an injured person because you couldn't face 3 points and 60 pound fine?

I'd happily sacrifice the points and pounds to have a clear conscience.

Of course I say this having a perfctly clear licesnse .. but even if i had 9 points i hope i would still make way for the emergency services..

deva link

26,934 posts

267 months

Sunday 28th August 2005
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tinman0 said:
this seems to be getting more common. there was the guy who pulled over on a red light and got a ticket for a fire engine or ambulance a couple of weeks ago.

i think the motto of the story is not to get out of any of the services way in future. its no good the services pleading for co-operation when motorists are getting prosecuted for doing their civil duty.


Is it illegal to 'refuse' to move? I've been 'forced' through traffic lights twice by ambulances, but could I just sit there, or could some charge be brought against me for doing that?

tony13579

183 posts

247 months

Sunday 28th August 2005
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I think that the scammers have made thier position very clear... you will be prosicuted. I will let them through but it will take longer. I will campaign to stop the scammers but in the mean time people may die.

but that is happening any way in the counties where speed cameras are over used.... more people are dying on the roads than before the camera partnerships existed. It is also happening in roadworks sections with cameras. mor accidents, more severe and it is affecting drivers as well as roadworkers.