Discussion
With this news. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58543554
Of over 1m job vacancies, is this the right time to scrap unemployment benefit, working tax credits and the minimum wage?
We could re introduce the 10% tax bracket for every one for the first 25,000 of income (first 5k exempt)
A proper bit of free market economics would be very welcome and significantly reduce the Government deficit.
Wages are going to have to rise, so why not reform now.
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Gargamel said:
With this news. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58543554
Of over 1m job vacancies, is this the right time to scrap unemployment benefit, working tax credits and the minimum wage?
We could re introduce the 10% tax bracket for every one for the first 25,000 of income (first 5k exempt)
A proper bit of free market economics would be very welcome and significantly reduce the Government deficit.
Wages are going to have to rise, so why not reform now.
[/Friedman]
You know inflation is going to go up, too, right?Of over 1m job vacancies, is this the right time to scrap unemployment benefit, working tax credits and the minimum wage?
We could re introduce the 10% tax bracket for every one for the first 25,000 of income (first 5k exempt)
A proper bit of free market economics would be very welcome and significantly reduce the Government deficit.
Wages are going to have to rise, so why not reform now.
[/Friedman]
People will be earning more, but things are going to cost more too. How much peoples wages rise vs how much price rises is for economic bods to model and predict.
But you're being ignorant if you think wages rising automatically means that everyone is going to be relatively richer than they were, and that they can start to be taxed more.
Besdies, they'd get more tax money closing all those loopholes and tax dodges the rich use.
Unless of course, one is more interested in reducing taxes for the rich.
ARHarh said:
I was going to say that, a lot of companies expect a lot for minimum wage.
And areas such as manufacturing are paying pathetic wages for highly skilled workers.
Healthcare sector - who wants to clean arses for minimum wage?
Hospitality- getting spoke to like s
t while working unsociable hours for less than minimum wage Mr E said:
46and2 said:
, no idea why.
My standard answer to this is usually “you’re not offering enough as compensation”The work ethic today is poor.
Getragdogleg said:
A lot of the trouble is the applicant, rare to find anyone who can actually work and do a good job consistently now, timekeeping is another area younger workers struggle with, sometimes even turning up at all is hard and often you don't even get so much as a message that they won't be in.
The work ethic today is poor.
Lazy workers exist and this hasn’t changed generationally. The work ethic today is poor.
The reason lazy workers allow themselves to be is they don’t respect the mission of their employment or their terms and conditions.
If you fix one of those you’ll have productive employees.
People will work for pittance if they are motivated by the job they’re doing.
People will work hard for a good salary where there would be a genuinely felt loss if the job was lost.
Doesn’t seem like rocket science to me...
100's of thousands of those jobs will be poor quality, part time or seasonal jobs for a start.
There's also millions of people in this country who are unemployable through fecklessness and that's before you get to the genuine people who can't work.
As much as I agree with the sentiment it would never work. Although work should always pay, even if it's 1hr a week.
There's also millions of people in this country who are unemployable through fecklessness and that's before you get to the genuine people who can't work.
As much as I agree with the sentiment it would never work. Although work should always pay, even if it's 1hr a week.
Rivenink said:
You know inflation is going to go up, too, right?
People will be earning more, but things are going to cost more too. How much peoples wages rise vs how much price rises is for economic bods to model and predict.
But you're being ignorant if you think wages rising automatically means that everyone is going to be relatively richer than they were, and that they can start to be taxed more.
Besdies, they'd get more tax money closing all those loopholes and tax dodges the rich use.
Unless of course, one is more interested in reducing taxes for the rich.
I think you are being naive if you think closing loop holes for the rich ever raises any more actual revenue. People will be earning more, but things are going to cost more too. How much peoples wages rise vs how much price rises is for economic bods to model and predict.
But you're being ignorant if you think wages rising automatically means that everyone is going to be relatively richer than they were, and that they can start to be taxed more.
Besdies, they'd get more tax money closing all those loopholes and tax dodges the rich use.
Unless of course, one is more interested in reducing taxes for the rich.
We have so many people paying little or no tax, that they have no stake in society anymore. Their view of tax is that it is soemthing other people should pay.
As to all the whining about the quality of the jobs. f
k Off. why should I work to pay dole money to scroungers who don't like getting up in the morning. You don't like work ? Tough st. No one owes you a living. Scrap long term dole (say any support above two years of transition payments. Scrap WTC. This would make employers have to raise wages to get the staff.
Jim the Sunderer said:
Care home, factory, bars/restaurants roles near the top.
I'd rather stay on the dole than do those whip crack jobs, not that I'm on the dole.
I bet you would do those jobs to feed your family, not be homeless and not die? So remove the dole so ones with your attitude can get back to work. I'd rather stay on the dole than do those whip crack jobs, not that I'm on the dole.
46and2 said:
We have 12 open positions in our dept alone. Impossible to fill at the moment, no idea why. I don't think scrapping benefits overnight would be a great idea though.
It's always the pay. You can b
h and moan about there not being enough talent around aka HGV drivers but if the average salary is £30-35k and you offer more than that then the relative shortage is irrelevant to you. The same with pubs. Moaning because they can't fill a zero hour contract position at £9.50hr, can't think why that would be.
okgo said:
romeogolf said:
No idea at all? Really?
What's the role and what's the salary being offered?
If it is so simple then why does any company have open roles? Amazon right now have 1800 roles in London?What's the role and what's the salary being offered?
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