New Porsches appreciating - cheapest way in
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So more and more people I know have managed to get on to the Porsche "escalator" and whilst it seems to be mysterious exactly how it works it seems clear that once you get up to a certain level, essentially where you cannot just go and order a car, then they appreciate immediately, from day 1 and people seem to ride this upwards and enjoy some amazing machinery with the added benefit of having made a tidy sum when they come to sell.
My question is, what is the best way to start out with this in mind?
My question is, what is the best way to start out with this in mind?
Z4MCSL said:
My question is, what is the best way to start out with this in mind?
apparently its very straightforwardGo into a dealer and buy a one of theose Caynene things and a maybe a Macan thing for your missus. Do this every 6 months and finance the hell out of them. Get all the extras especially the stuff that teh salesman gets commission on. Eventually they will offer you a GT car.
In my case, and probably many others, it’s a long term commitment to the brand rather than jumping onto the escalator.
I have owned Porsche cars almost all my driving life, starting out with older ones first. I did have a Carrera GT in the early 80’s which was a particular highlight. I have also raced Porsches in the Porsche club in the late 80’s and early 90’s. One slowly moves up the hierarchy of models as funds etc allow. You develop a relationship with a few people and dealers en route and can usually get the cars you want. Remember right up to 997 Gen2 there was no mad panic on GT3 allocation, you just ordered one! I currently have 3 Porsches on the fleet with another one incoming so I probably count as a reasonable client at my OPC.
The other way is just to start a YouTube channel, or become an “influencer” on the ‘gram. Get whatever you want then
I have owned Porsche cars almost all my driving life, starting out with older ones first. I did have a Carrera GT in the early 80’s which was a particular highlight. I have also raced Porsches in the Porsche club in the late 80’s and early 90’s. One slowly moves up the hierarchy of models as funds etc allow. You develop a relationship with a few people and dealers en route and can usually get the cars you want. Remember right up to 997 Gen2 there was no mad panic on GT3 allocation, you just ordered one! I currently have 3 Porsches on the fleet with another one incoming so I probably count as a reasonable client at my OPC.
The other way is just to start a YouTube channel, or become an “influencer” on the ‘gram. Get whatever you want then
RudeBoy said:
IMI A said:
Looks like the Youtuber TGE’s car?Unfortunately since around 2015 the ££ gravytrain ship has long since sailed. It will now cost you bigtime to get any Porsche GT allocations with little or no buying history.
Rather like discussing property values round the dinner table. Or buying tech shares at their peak. Once every man and his dog are onto the idea unfortunately but predictably it is a closed shop. And you will lose money.
Essentially It all started with the 991.1. GT3.
Unfortunately you are 7 years too late.
Bitcoin may give you a better return.
Rather like discussing property values round the dinner table. Or buying tech shares at their peak. Once every man and his dog are onto the idea unfortunately but predictably it is a closed shop. And you will lose money.
Essentially It all started with the 991.1. GT3.
Unfortunately you are 7 years too late.
Bitcoin may give you a better return.
julian987R said:
RudeBoy said:
IMI A said:
Looks like the Youtuber TGE’s car?Van Halen said:
I cannot get there from here, baby
And I don't care where I'm goin'
The ship sailed. People being offered builds for new GT cars are:And I don't care where I'm goin'
A.) very long term customers
3.) spending a s
t ton of money on buying other Porsche cars, which often incur huge depreciationb.) IMHO all the best GT cars have already been made anyway
Starting now and not wanting to hose money on the thing, I'd be more inclined to look for things likely to appreciate more.
Early Boxsters are inexplicably unloved.
Early 996.1 & 2 GT3's still exceptionally good value, compared to say an BMW M3 CLS.
All 997 GT3's carry a huge chunk of the essence of the 997.2 GT3 RS 4 litre, but don;t cost £300k for a LHD example.
James44 said:
You'd need to work out the numbers on a long timeframe ... That £50k you make on the GT car may be less than the hit you've taken on 2 Cayennes, a Macan and the carbon fibre indicator stalks you specified for them.
I was just about to say the depn alone on those cars would certainly massively outweight the gain on a GT carId never really thought about the Boxsters - you are so right, old Boxsters are now silly money.
Might look into production numbers - considering how much of an impact they made when they came out it is odd how little love they get but then I am guessing there are just too many of them?
Might look into production numbers - considering how much of an impact they made when they came out it is odd how little love they get but then I am guessing there are just too many of them?
Already covered but if you want a GT car you either have 5-10 years of buying a new car every 6 months to get a sniff at a slot or just buy a 2nd hand one and pay an inflated price.
You need to estimate how much you're going to lose with the first scenario and timescales involved as to whether that is cheaper in the long run that option 2.
It's this that's made we walk away from the brand and how they treat their customers.
To add to this I have a good friend who's never had an expensive car, but put a deposit down on day one for a Lotus Emira, after a week or two and the potential long lead times he has shown an interest in GT4's, he called Porsche Bolton who point blank refused to even consider him as a potential GT customer (as expected), the second Porsche Preston were more receptive, stating that they may be able to secure a car and to come in to discuss options etc.... He tried to progress this but was told he was unlikely to get a build slot (no surprise) and what about buying a Cayman S as an introduction to the brand (and get you into the first scenario)... he politely declined and walked away.
You need to estimate how much you're going to lose with the first scenario and timescales involved as to whether that is cheaper in the long run that option 2.
It's this that's made we walk away from the brand and how they treat their customers.
To add to this I have a good friend who's never had an expensive car, but put a deposit down on day one for a Lotus Emira, after a week or two and the potential long lead times he has shown an interest in GT4's, he called Porsche Bolton who point blank refused to even consider him as a potential GT customer (as expected), the second Porsche Preston were more receptive, stating that they may be able to secure a car and to come in to discuss options etc.... He tried to progress this but was told he was unlikely to get a build slot (no surprise) and what about buying a Cayman S as an introduction to the brand (and get you into the first scenario)... he politely declined and walked away.
IMI A said:
julian987R said:
RudeBoy said:
IMI A said:
Looks like the Youtuber TGE’s car?
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