Ofcom deem "Karen" and "Gammon" offensive terms

[anonymous-user]

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[GranpaB]

Can we also get the DM classed as offensive?

[Dagnir]

Nothing wrong with simply offensive. If only half of society had realised that 10 years ago, the world wouldn't be such a mess now.


Gammon refers specifically to race though, so I've always wondered why that's allowed......Well I suppose we know that really don't we.


Coconut (and other similar terms) aren't allowed as it's deem racially demeaning.


Would coco pop (for a sensitive black person) be allowed?

Would vindaloo (for an Indian with a spicy temper) be allowed?

Etc. You get the point.


All pejorative comparisons to food with a racial aspect. Given how sensitive a certain portion of the population are to such things, it's always seemed odd to me....


Inb4 the residents come in to belittle anyone who has an opposing opinion, call them snowflakes...

Edited by Dagnir on Wednesday 22 September 09:15

[Psycho Warren]

I see snowflakes everywhere. lol

[robscot]

Dagnir said:

Gammon refers specifically to race though, so I've always wondered why that's allowed......Well I suppose we know that really don't we.

A thread about 'gammon' and Dagnir right on it, do you have alerts set up or something?

[anonymous-user]

Dagnir said:

Gammon refers specifically to race though,

You do understand 'races' don't exist. I guess you don't because you use the term. Just FYI you will be 99.9% the same as a bloke from Africa/Asia/Eskimo. Because colour and features are so prominent people think they must be vast genetical differences between people, there isn't.

Statistically, genetically you will have more in common with a person from Asia than your next door neighbour.

So gammon term, defines a person of white skin and red ruddy face who get angry at many things, usually immigration and leftisim.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 22 September 10:02

[ZedLeg]

I'd agree that they could both be offensive as pejorative ways to describe someone. Gammon isn't a racial slur though.

[Biggy Stardust]

"Freedom to speak only inoffensively is no freedom at all."

(Supreme Court)

[Dagnir]

robscot said:

A thread about 'gammon' and Dagnir right on it, do you have alerts set up or something?

It's called a morning coffee


...but well done for being the first to play the man and ignore the points I made.


If only I had predicted that....

[Dagnir]

The Spruce Goose said:

Dagnir said:

Gammon refers specifically to race though,

You do understand 'races' don't exist. I guess you don't because you use the term. Just FYI you will be 99.9% the same as a bloke from Africa/Asia/Eskimo. Because colour and features are so prominent people think they must be vast genetical differences between people, there isn't.

Statistically, genetically you will have more in common with a person from Asia than your next door neighbour.

So gammon term, defines a person of white skin and red ruddy face who get angry at many things, usually immigration and leftisim.

Edited by The Spruce Goose on Wednesday 22 September 10:02

Care to address the points made in my post?

[chrispmartha]

Dagnir said:

Care to address the points made in my post?

Gammon refers to attitude not race.

[Digga]

chrispmartha said:

Dagnir said:

Care to address the points made in my post?

Gammon refers to attitude not race.

I actually don't care if it is racist, which I can see it might be if the intent is to mean middle-aged, pudgy, puce-faced angry white bloke. It's funny and people should keep using the term.

[0a]

chrispmartha said:

Dagnir said:

Care to address the points made in my post?

Gammon refers to attitude not race.

It originates from the skin colour.

[anonymous-user]

chrispmartha said:

Gammon refers to attitude not race.

Funny how it has to be spelled out.,

I think it is a mindset as well, yes the wall of gammon on question time highlighted the issue, but it boils down to a very rigid thinking on certain issues, with no deviation.
I would actually say it is cultural stance.

[andyA700]

chrispmartha said:

Gammon refers to attitude not race.

It is racist and ageist, because it refers to a white male of a certain age. The word "Karen" is applied to any white woman of a certain age who dares to offer an opinion on any subject.

[46and2]

I'm betting this thread gets to 17 pages.

[ikarl]

Wow... Gammon

If I see the word Gammon I immediately think it's calling someone a fanny - nothing racial. My eyes have been opened.

Gammon Curtains refers loosely to lady flaps.... at least, in Glasgow it does

[robscot]

Dagnir said:

It's called a morning coffee


...but well done for being the first to play the man and ignore the points I made.


If only I had predicted that....

Done that before and I think you got booted from the thread

[ZedLeg]

andyA700 said:

chrispmartha said:

Gammon refers to attitude not race.

It is racist and ageist, because it refers to a white male of a certain age. The word "Karen" is applied to any white woman of a certain age who dares to offer an opinion on any subject.

Actually Karen started as a describer for the kind of white women who call the cops on black people doing completely innocuous things, it's spread to being used for people with bad/harmful opinions not any opinion.

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

Digga said:

I actually don't care if it is racist, which I can see it might be if the intent is to mean middle-aged, pudgy, puce-faced angry white bloke. It's funny and people should keep using the term.

So IF it is racist you are happy to keep using it because it is funny?

Interesting. Would you be happy to continue using other racist terms if you considered them funny?

As I have said before, I dont know whether "gammon" is racist or not, even though it is usually only aimed at white people, but it is defiantely a handy tool because it quickly identifies those using it or finding it funny as utter bellends who's opinions can be safely ignored.