Fuel smell in the boot
Fuel smell in the boot
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blaze_away

Original Poster:

1,619 posts

230 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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I am getting fuel smells in the boot so I intend to replace any hoses in that area.

I am guessing there is

1. Hose from tank to pump
2. Return hose from engine supply
3. Rubber collar from filler to tank
4. Anything else

What is the length and diametre needed for those plus anyone have any wisdom to guide me please ?

PS I have already got some J30 R9 Mocal and proper fuel clips to do the eng8ne bay lines, although they are only 2 yrs old.

lancepar

1,078 posts

189 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Hi Frank,

And there may be some other pipes for the carbon canister and roll-over fuel cut off valve behind the filler side of the tank on yours.

I used some of this on the 92' Griff between the filler neck stub and the tank, but it's a stange TVR version.

It did the job just fine.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311974176570

Found the order in my ebay purchase history but no dia' stated, sorry.

Lance

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blaze_away

Original Poster:

1,619 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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lancepar said:
Hi Frank,

And there may be some other pipes for the carbon canister and roll-over fuel cut off valve behind the filler side of the tank on yours.

I used some of this on the 92' Griff between the filler neck stub and the tank, but it's a stange TVR version.

It did the job just fine.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311974176570

Found the order in my ebay purchase history but no dia' stated, sorry.

Lance

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Thanks Lance, useful info.

Belle427

10,841 posts

250 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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from memory most of it is 8 mm id except the piece from tank to pump which is 12 mm id.
The correct hose clips as you say are a must.
There have been a few threads on fuel smells in the boot, i dont think any identified perished hose but cant remember the outcome sorry.

Edited by Belle427 on Wednesday 29th September 12:36

blaze_away

Original Poster:

1,619 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Belle427 said:
from memory most of it is 8 mm id except the piece from tank to pump which is 12 mm id.
The correct hose clips as you say are a must.
There have been a few threads on fuel smells in the boot, i dont think any identified perished hose but cant remember the outcome sorry.

Edited by Belle427 on Wednesday 29th September 12:36
Thanks for that, I have 2 metres of the 8mm id and 2 metres on its way plus a foot of the 12mm.

Hopefully that will suffice

lancepar

1,078 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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What about the sender which I think would be on the top of your tank like my old Chim', Could this be insecure do you think?

My smelly boot was caused by a leaky sender seal but as you know my sender is half way down the side, oddball Griff' it ishehe

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blaze_away

Original Poster:

1,619 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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Thanks everyone for your very useful posts, I've decided to go "all in" and pull the tank out and check and replace all hos3s and anything else that needs doing.

Will summon up the will to do it over next few days and dive in, taking pics and commentary as I go.

nawarne

3,128 posts

277 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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Morning all! Been reading this thread over last couple of days. The reason being a mate's Griff had a hard to explain fuel leak - - well, we couldn't put any science to it.

We arrived Wednesday evening last week at a friend's house in Volvic/Auvergne. We'd just come off the motorway and some fairly quick driving! Noticed a bit of a 'rumble' from gearbox.

We were tired and hungry, so after some food and a chat, we turned in. Thursday morning my pal went out to start car and intended to drive up and down the drive to listen for 'rumble' (this later stopped completely!). He discovered and smelt fuel under car in area of filter/front lower wishbone mount/exhaust tray. Visited local garagiste who had car on ramp and (fair enough) found inlet to filter a bit 'loose'. This was nipped up and car started on ramp and ramp lifted - no leak visible.

Saturday AM, Pal started car...strong smell of fuel. Visible leak in same area. Phone calls made - garagiste didn't work Saturday. Went to local auto factors - 2M of methanol proof hose purchased along with clips, some copper microbore and a pipe slice. Local TVR owner had pit. Returned to pick up Griff....NO fuel leak now, and drove to chap who had pit.

With car over pit, and exhaust tray removed and ARB bush clamps undone, a really close inspection of fuel lines was done. Found 2 off clips on supply ex filter to engine heavily corroded and we assume, the return to tank from fuel rail in poor condition. Mate cut copper pipe on line TO engine...bit dodgy until it depressurised!!! then replaced this section in rubber tube. The return was repaired, cropping out the section with acute bends to fix onto existing.

After 3 - 4 hours engine started and all secure.
What we couldn't quite explain was the intermittent nature of the leak? Was it temperature related? Was it a result of initial pressure from pump on first start from cold?

In any event, we drove ~ 400 miles to Dieppe on Monday and all was good.
Nick

Zeb74

447 posts

146 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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nawarne said:
Morning all! Been reading this thread over last couple of days. The reason being a mate's Griff had a hard to explain fuel leak - - well, we couldn't put any science to it.

We arrived Wednesday evening last week at a friend's house in Volvic/Auvergne. We'd just come off the motorway and some fairly quick driving! Noticed a bit of a 'rumble' from gearbox.

We were tired and hungry, so after some food and a chat, we turned in. Thursday morning my pal went out to start car and intended to drive up and down the drive to listen for 'rumble' (this later stopped completely!). He discovered and smelt fuel under car in area of filter/front lower wishbone mount/exhaust tray. Visited local garagiste who had car on ramp and (fair enough) found inlet to filter a bit 'loose'. This was nipped up and car started on ramp and ramp lifted - no leak visible.

Saturday AM, Pal started car...strong smell of fuel. Visible leak in same area. Phone calls made - garagiste didn't work Saturday. Went to local auto factors - 2M of methanol proof hose purchased along with clips, some copper microbore and a pipe slice. Local TVR owner had pit. Returned to pick up Griff....NO fuel leak now, and drove to chap who had pit.

With car over pit, and exhaust tray removed and ARB bush clamps undone, a really close inspection of fuel lines was done. Found 2 off clips on supply ex filter to engine heavily corroded and we assume, the return to tank from fuel rail in poor condition. Mate cut copper pipe on line TO engine...bit dodgy until it depressurised!!! then replaced this section in rubber tube. The return was repaired, cropping out the section with acute bends to fix onto existing.

After 3 - 4 hours engine started and all secure.
What we couldn't quite explain was the intermittent nature of the leak? Was it temperature related? Was it a result of initial pressure from pump on first start from cold?

In any event, we drove ~ 400 miles to Dieppe on Monday and all was good.
Nick
Good work! I saw a picture of the car in Pierre's garage :-)



Steve_D

13,799 posts

275 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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blaze_away said:
Thanks everyone for your very useful posts, I've decided to go "all in" and pull the tank out and check and replace all hos3s and anything else that needs doing.

Will summon up the will to do it over next few days and dive in, taking pics and commentary as I go.
Not a difficult job just a pain trying to hold the securing strap bolt heads in the boot whilst undoing the nut under the boot.

Steve

phillpot

17,392 posts

200 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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Steve_D said:
Not a difficult job just a pain trying to hold the securing strap bolt heads in the boot whilst undoing the nut under the boot.

Steve

nawarne

3,128 posts

277 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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Zeb74 said:
Good work! I saw a picture of the car in Pierre's garage :-)
Zeb, yes, it would have been much, much harder to do the job on axle stands!! Thank goodness Pierre made his garage and pit available to us on the Saturday. Just made it to watch the last couple of races at Charade on Saturday afternoon.

Good opportunity to practise my French too!
Nick