Diversity course at University of Kent
Diversity course at University of Kent
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andyA700

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3,452 posts

60 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Apparently, the University of Kent has decided that all students should attend a mandatory, four hour, diversity course, where it will posit the following gems - wearing second hand clothes is an example of white privilege.
The topics covered will include - white privilege, microaggressions and pronouns.
The course, titled Expect Respect and seen by The Telegraph, includes a white privilege quiz where participants are asked to pick which of 13 options are societal benefits allegedly enjoyed by white people in the UK.
If the student ticks all 13, a gold star is awarded, and if not, a button appears directing them to retry.
Is there no end to this absolute rot?
Maybe I should get up every morning, thrash myself with a bunch of sticks, then wash away my sins in a frozen shower.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/wearing-seco...

Getragdogleg

9,869 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Absolute toss. I wore second hand clothes as a kid because we were skint and struggling. Can't recall much privilege in 70/80s Cornwall growing up just work and worry about bills.




anonymous-user

77 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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I really don't get how wearing second hand clothes can be white privilege. Haven't we all worn second hand clothing at some point?

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo

15,078 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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As ridiculous as it is, it’ll probably be the most useful lecture that a lot of students will attend on their pretentious courses.

mmm-five

12,112 posts

307 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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All my clothes are second hand after I've worn them once!

anonymous-user

77 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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mmm-five said:
All my clothes are second hand after I've worn them once!
Virtue signaller wink

G7orge

293 posts

117 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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OpulentBob said:
Virtue signaller wink
biggrin

mmm-five

12,112 posts

307 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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OpulentBob said:
Virtue signaller wink
Don't worry, I offset it by only buying 2nd hand cars and property.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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"Second hand" (dreadful term) is offensive to the digitally challenged (aka amputees).

"Pre-loved" is now the required descriptor.

Educate yourselves.


Am I doing it right?

rscott

17,016 posts

214 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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OpulentBob said:
I really don't get how wearing second hand clothes can be white privilege. Haven't we all worn second hand clothing at some point?
Reading the article it isn't simply saying that just wearing second hand clothes can be white privilege.

The actual comment is “I can swear, or dress in second-hand clothes, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.”
In other words, people from one race can choose to wear second hand clothes and no-one thinks they're doing so because they can't afford new ones, whereas if a person from an other racial group wears them, there's an assumption that they don't have a choice.

Which I'm still not sure relates to race as much as the financial situation of the person...

TorqueVR

1,932 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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When I was a kid my clothes were new and my younger brother's were 2nd hand, so I assume he has white privilege and I don't

Munter

31,330 posts

264 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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"I can swear, or dress in second-hand clothes, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.”

I remember now as I was being punched in the face and kicked to a pulp on the floor at secondary school because my clothes we're both 2nd hand and home made, that it wasn't because of my race. Thank god for that. That's a hell of a privilege I just wish more races (other than "white" people like myself) could share in.

2xChevrons

4,189 posts

103 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Usual PH standard of "asking questions that are answered in the first paragraph of the article", I see:

said:
Wearing second-hand clothes without this being blamed on “the bad morals of my race” is an example of white privilege, students have been told in a compulsory diversity course.
That's what they mean by white privilege. It is (like a lot of this stuff) more of an issue imported from America, where a white college kid wearing clothes from Goodwill is seen as trendily shabby-chic, environmentally conscious or just sensibly thrifty, while black kids get grief for being poor, ghetto jokes or being held up as examples of 'black people' not caring about how they look or not having ambition (dress for success and all that stuff).

As usual, people are asking questions, making up their own answers and then getting angry at the answers they have given themselves!

If you're going to froth, froth at the actual content of the story.

anonymous-user

77 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Smiler. said:
"Second hand" (dreadful term) is offensive to the digitally challenged (aka amputees).

"Pre-loved" is now the required descriptor.

Educate yourselves.


Am I doing it right?
rofl


Hoofy

79,384 posts

305 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Smiler. said:
"Second hand" (dreadful term) is offensive to the digitally challenged (aka amputees).

"Pre-loved" is now the required descriptor.

Educate yourselves.


Am I doing it right?
What if you were never loved as a child? grumpy

anonymous-user

77 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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2xChevrons said:
Usual PH standard of "asking questions that are answered in the first paragraph of the article", I see:

said:
Wearing second-hand clothes without this being blamed on “the bad morals of my race” is an example of white privilege, students have been told in a compulsory diversity course.
That's what they mean by white privilege. It is (like a lot of this stuff) more of an issue imported from America, where a white college kid wearing clothes from Goodwill is seen as trendily shabby-chic, environmentally conscious or just sensibly thrifty, while black kids get grief for being poor, ghetto jokes or being held up as examples of 'black people' not caring about how they look or not having ambition (dress for success and all that stuff).

As usual, people are asking questions, making up their own answers and then getting angry at the answers they have given themselves!

If you're going to froth, froth at the actual content of the story.
Nobody's frothing or angry.

Mocking yes, frothing no.

A Winner Is You

25,822 posts

250 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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OpulentBob said:
2xChevrons said:
Usual PH standard of "asking questions that are answered in the first paragraph of the article", I see:

said:
Wearing second-hand clothes without this being blamed on “the bad morals of my race” is an example of white privilege, students have been told in a compulsory diversity course.
That's what they mean by white privilege. It is (like a lot of this stuff) more of an issue imported from America, where a white college kid wearing clothes from Goodwill is seen as trendily shabby-chic, environmentally conscious or just sensibly thrifty, while black kids get grief for being poor, ghetto jokes or being held up as examples of 'black people' not caring about how they look or not having ambition (dress for success and all that stuff).

As usual, people are asking questions, making up their own answers and then getting angry at the answers they have given themselves!

If you're going to froth, froth at the actual content of the story.
Nobody's frothing or angry.

Mocking yes, frothing no.
When I was at school I remember the white kids from poor families being mocked for their situation. As usual, they are conflating class privilege with race privilege.

Hoofy

79,384 posts

305 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Thing is, it's this kind of overthinking that puts people off.

So off I go to buy some fast fashion because I'd feel less guilty about saving money or the environment.

rodericb

8,531 posts

149 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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rscott said:
OpulentBob said:
I really don't get how wearing second hand clothes can be white privilege. Haven't we all worn second hand clothing at some point?
Reading the article it isn't simply saying that just wearing second hand clothes can be white privilege.

The actual comment is “I can swear, or dress in second-hand clothes, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.”
In other words, people from one race can choose to wear second hand clothes and no-one thinks they're doing so because they can't afford new ones, whereas if a person from an other racial group wears them, there's an assumption that they don't have a choice.

Which I'm still not sure relates to race as much as the financial situation of the person...
It's seems to be about stereotypes and predispositions about race. Such as assuming if you see a white person wearing second hand clothes they're doing it by choice but a black person does so as they can't afford new clothes. If I made those assumptions (and I probably would, come to think about it), I've learnt that stereotype from observation and the fact that the stereotype exists can indicate that there some "truth" to it. Which would mean that black people are more financially disadvantaged than white people, which then leads on to other thoughts, remedies and so on and which also seems to nullify the whole intent of this course aims of trying to beat those thoughts out of my head. Or in other words don't feel sorry for the black person wearing second hand clothes as they may be doing it because they can actually afford new clothes but love wearing second hand clothes for some reason and by making the assumption you're a racist.... It's this strange anti-anti-racism,if you will, you see nowadays. Like how some people see the Democrats and the abortion thing in the US where a greater portion of funding towards abortion clinics is in places with higher african american populations.... Hey, are you helping them or are you secretly trying to eradicate them.....

andyA700

Original Poster:

3,452 posts

60 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Hoofy said:
What if you were never loved as a child? grumpy
Trigger alert, I now feel very sad, morose even, woe is me.