Council threaten to remove car.
Council threaten to remove car.
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bern

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1,397 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Thought this may be of interest to some? It's usually one of the first suggestions when people ask for something to annoy a wker neighbour!

I'll attempt to keep it brief. Dad has long running running issues with a typical analy retentive wker neighbour. A friend of mine emigrated and I have agreed to sell his wife's car for them. Prior to this it needs a new clutch. I leave said car (taxed, tested, and insured) on the road in front wkers house. Waiting for the garage to be able to fit it in. Car there approximately 10 days, getting covered in crap from said wkers massively overgrown trees, adding to the abandoned look no doubt.

A couple of days before going into the garage my dad received a phone call from the council regarding a abandoned car. I wasn't there when they rang but apparently they received short shrift from my dad!

Anyway, 2 days later the cars in the garage being repaired and I sold it yesterday. It never went back to my dad's.

Today this letter arrived at my friend's old house threatening to tow the vehicle and subsequently destroy it as they believe he had no intention of moving it!



Like I said it's all done and dusted now and wker had no need to get his freshly pressed y-fronts in a twist but I'm intrigued in people's thoughts on it, especially with it being a common suggestion when winding up said wker neighbours!

Muzzer79

13,057 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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A vehicle would only be considered Abandoned if it wasn't taxed, tested and/or insured.

Being as your vehicle was, the writer of the letter would have no remit to remove it if it was legally parked on public highway.

Monkeylegend

29,198 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Was the letter actually from the council or did the neighbour send it?

Who knows.

Anyway it doesn't matter now so nothing to worry about.

bern

Original Poster:

1,397 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Muzzer79 said:
A vehicle would only be considered Abandoned if it wasn't taxed, tested and/or insured.

Being as your vehicle was, the writer of the letter would have no remit to remove it if it was legally parked on public highway.
Thought as much but it's there in black and white. RMBC obviously think they only need to 'think' it's abandoned in order to remove it. To be fair, thinking doesn't happen very often at RMBC so it was probably safe where it was!

bern

Original Poster:

1,397 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
Was the letter actually from the council or did the neighbour send it?

Who knows.

Anyway it doesn't matter now so nothing to worry about.
From the council parking services. Agreed on nothing to worry about thumbup

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

180 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Well I'd be fking annoyed if someone left a broken car in front of my house for ages without telling me it was going to be moved and in what time frame. It's bad enough my neighbour does this to me with a taxed and insured car which barely ever moves, it's fking inconvenient for my visitors and deliveries and it's fking unsightly. Have some consideration further than "I'm entitled to leave it there so I fking well will".

Maybe you could have been less of a wker and told this other wker that it's yours and would be moving on in 10 days, or maybe you could have put it somewhere more considerate to the neighbour?

So much onanism going on in this post I think it probably showed up on the Richter Scale. Are you in Crete?

I don't blame him for calling it in as abandoned if he didn't know whose it was and how long it was going to be there.

pavarotti1980

6,329 posts

113 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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bern said:
From the council parking services. Agreed on nothing to worry about thumbup
A nice reply stating that the removal was not lawful due to it being taxed, insured etc and see if you get a response. Just have a bit of fun with council knowing full well it isnt there smile

brman

1,233 posts

138 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Muzzer79 said:
A vehicle would only be considered Abandoned if it wasn't taxed, tested and/or insured.

Being as your vehicle was, the writer of the letter would have no remit to remove it if it was legally parked on public highway.
Are you sure about that?
I have just been reading the legislation:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/3/1997-0...
and the explanatory notes from 2004:
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmb...

It would appear that the LA has the duty to act if a vehicle appears to be abandoned. Any need to wait until the tax etc runs out appears to have been removed.

From a quick read I could not see any definition of "appears to be abandoned"

Do you read it differently?

KAgantua

5,164 posts

160 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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ElectricSoup said:
Well I'd be fking annoyed if someone left a broken car in front of my house for ages without telling me it was going to be moved and in what time frame. It's bad enough my neighbour does this to me with a taxed and insured car which barely ever moves, it's fking inconvenient for my visitors and deliveries and it's fking unsightly. Have some consideration further than "I'm entitled to leave it there so I fking well will".

Maybe you could have been less of a wker and told this other wker that it's yours and would be moving on in 10 days, or maybe you could have put it somewhere more considerate to the neighbour?

So much onanism going on in this post I think it probably showed up on the Richter Scale. Are you in Crete?

I don't blame him for calling it in as abandoned if he didn't know whose it was and how long it was going to be there.
Agreed.
Couple of my neighbours have form for leaving Autotraders finest' sub-£500 'Spares or repairs' beauties strewn around the road (Limited parking).
One of them kept getting letters from the council, then one of them towed. He now only has two cars (and a van)

You sound like the bad neighbour TBH. If you want to do up old cars and sell them on, invest in some commercial space.

Cascade360

11,631 posts

114 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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ElectricSoup said:
Well I'd be fking annoyed if someone left a broken car in front of my house for ages without telling me it was going to be moved and in what time frame. It's bad enough my neighbour does this to me with a taxed and insured car which barely ever moves, it's fking inconvenient for my visitors and deliveries and it's fking unsightly. Have some consideration further than "I'm entitled to leave it there so I fking well will".

Maybe you could have been less of a wker and told this other wker that it's yours and would be moving on in 10 days, or maybe you could have put it somewhere more considerate to the neighbour?

So much onanism going on in this post I think it probably showed up on the Richter Scale. Are you in Crete?

I don't blame him for calling it in as abandoned if he didn't know whose it was and how long it was going to be there.
You don't own the road outside your house. The car wasn't even there for ten days. Are you for real?

OP - you could just write a letter to the council and tell them the car is not in fact abandoned and they could do nothing.

steveo3002

11,201 posts

203 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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so its parked legally on the road ...what if the owner had gone on holiday for 14 days ? get the car towed away because why?


NGee

2,930 posts

193 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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KAgantua said:
ElectricSoup said:
Well I'd be fking annoyed if someone left a broken car in front of my house for ages without telling me it was going to be moved and in what time frame. It's bad enough my neighbour does this to me with a taxed and insured car which barely ever moves, it's fking inconvenient for my visitors and deliveries and it's fking unsightly. Have some consideration further than "I'm entitled to leave it there so I fking well will".

Maybe you could have been less of a wker and told this other wker that it's yours and would be moving on in 10 days, or maybe you could have put it somewhere more considerate to the neighbour?

So much onanism going on in this post I think it probably showed up on the Richter Scale. Are you in Crete?

I don't blame him for calling it in as abandoned if he didn't know whose it was and how long it was going to be there.
Agreed.
Couple of my neighbours have form for leaving Autotraders finest' sub-£500 'Spares or repairs' beauties strewn around the road (Limited parking).
One of them kept getting letters from the council, then one of them towed. He now only has two cars (and a van)

You sound like the bad neighbour TBH. If you want to do up old cars and sell them on, invest in some commercial space.
Well you 2 sound like a right barrel of laughs, glad I don't live anywhere near you. You might be fking annoyed if someone left a broken car in front of your house for ages without telling you, tough st, that's life, and who said anything about 'doing up old cars'? If you don't like it go and buy a mansion where you can control who parks within a mile of your house.
This might come as a shock to you but it is not illegal to park a car on a public road if it is taxed MOTd and insured, providing it is not causing an obstruction.
You obviously believe you have joined the entitled elite - you haven't. We all have share the same space and that includes the road that you don't own, even if it is outside your house.

ChevronB19

9,064 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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ElectricSoup said:
Well I'd be fking annoyed if someone left a broken car in front of my house for ages without telling me it was going to be moved and in what time frame. It's bad enough my neighbour does this to me with a taxed and insured car which barely ever moves, it's fking inconvenient for my visitors and deliveries and it's fking unsightly. Have some consideration further than "I'm entitled to leave it there so I fking well will".

Maybe you could have been less of a wker and told this other wker that it's yours and would be moving on in 10 days, or maybe you could have put it somewhere more considerate to the neighbour?

So much onanism going on in this post I think it probably showed up on the Richter Scale. Are you in Crete?

I don't blame him for calling it in as abandoned if he didn't know whose it was and how long it was going to be there.
It might escape you, but he’s done nothing wrong. When I was a student I’d clear off back home for weeks, leaving a battered mini (taxed, MoT’d insured) on the road actually outside my own house (a space anyone else was also ‘entitled’ to).

Every. Single. Time. The neighbour reported it as abandoned, before finally yelling at me saying it was bringing down the value of her house. Council eventually told her to stop or they (and I) would report her for harassment. She stopped.

bern

Original Poster:

1,397 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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ElectricSoup said:
Well I'd be fking annoyed if someone left a broken car in front of my house for ages without telling me it was going to be moved and in what time frame. It's bad enough my neighbour does this to me with a taxed and insured car which barely ever moves, it's fking inconvenient for my visitors and deliveries and it's fking unsightly. Have some consideration further than "I'm entitled to leave it there so I fking well will".

Maybe you could have been less of a wker and told this other wker that it's yours and would be moving on in 10 days, or maybe you could have put it somewhere more considerate to the neighbour?

So much onanism going on in this post I think it probably showed up on the Richter Scale. Are you in Crete?

I don't blame him for calling it in as abandoned if he didn't know whose it was and how long it was going to be there.
hehe

Sure you don't live next door to my dad?!

Pica-Pica

16,566 posts

113 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Don’t people talk to their neighbours nowadays? Perhaps they do, but loaded with expletives.

SD_1

7,278 posts

187 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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ElectricSoup said:
Well I'd be fking annoyed if someone left a broken car in front of my house for ages without telling me it was going to be moved and in what time frame. It's bad enough my neighbour does this to me with a taxed and insured car which barely ever moves, it's fking inconvenient for my visitors and deliveries and it's fking unsightly. Have some consideration further than "I'm entitled to leave it there so I fking well will".

Maybe you could have been less of a wker and told this other wker that it's yours and would be moving on in 10 days, or maybe you could have put it somewhere more considerate to the neighbour?

So much onanism going on in this post I think it probably showed up on the Richter Scale. Are you in Crete?

I don't blame him for calling it in as abandoned if he didn't know whose it was and how long it was going to be there.
If it is on a public road and not on your driveway, then what does it have to do with you? You don't own the parking space on a public road outside your house, and you have no special rights to it what so ever.

ChevronB19

9,064 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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SD_1 said:
ElectricSoup said:
Well I'd be fking annoyed if someone left a broken car in front of my house for ages without telling me it was going to be moved and in what time frame. It's bad enough my neighbour does this to me with a taxed and insured car which barely ever moves, it's fking inconvenient for my visitors and deliveries and it's fking unsightly. Have some consideration further than "I'm entitled to leave it there so I fking well will".

Maybe you could have been less of a wker and told this other wker that it's yours and would be moving on in 10 days, or maybe you could have put it somewhere more considerate to the neighbour?

So much onanism going on in this post I think it probably showed up on the Richter Scale. Are you in Crete?

I don't blame him for calling it in as abandoned if he didn't know whose it was and how long it was going to be there.
If it is on a public road and not on your driveway, then what does it have to do with you? You don't own the parking space on a public road outside your house, and you have no special rights to it what so ever.
Yes, but there are ‘some people’ (of which ElectricSoup seems to be one) who think that they have rights above and beyond the rest of us. Which they don’t.

surveyor

18,689 posts

213 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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parking in front of one's own house might have solved some problems.

Electro1980

9,139 posts

168 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Don’t forget that a car on the road must also be in a road worthy state. I’m guessing that the council have written letters based on the neighbours call/email. I would bet, assuming it had 4 inflated tyres and no major damage the council would eventually have arrived to have a look and then told said busybody to FRO (assuming it’s in the condition claimed).

Countdown

49,343 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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surveyor said:
parking in front of one's own house might have solved some problems.
That's what I was wondering, or even in front of the OP's dad's house.