Toy sector - what happened
Toy sector - what happened
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tracer.smart

Original Poster:

658 posts

240 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Looking to buy my kids stuff for their upcoming birthdays, and realised there are no toy shops anymore. The ones that remain, like Hamleys, sell cheap plastic rubbish or everything is movie merch.

I remember as a kid in the 80s how fun it was to visit a toy store, and you planned birthdays and christmas based on ideas from what was in the window and on the shelves.

Kids now have none of that inspiration. They have movies, whatever junk is on supermarket shelves, or what their mates have - which is usually the same crap from Tesco.

And where a Hornby train or Matchbox car cost a few quid back then, the equivalent are ten or twenty times the price now and only online - like they are aimed at adults, not for kids.

What happened to this sector?

vixen1700

29,002 posts

299 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Was thinking something similar the other day walking past a horse chestnut tree with a load of conkers on the ground.

Do kids still play conkers at school?

I was explaining the joy of going conker hunting on a Sunday, putting holes in them and going to school with pockets stuffed with them and bits of string/laces. smile

Jumpers for goalposts, oh yes


bigandclever

14,350 posts

267 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Independent toy shops have been going the same way as independents in other sectors for pretty much the same reasons; competition from the big boys, death of the high street, Amazon, economic downturn, increase in costs, etc

Kids are growing out of ‘traditional’ toys earlier because of alternates like consoles, tablets and phones. Grim as it is you’ll probably find ‘on screen’ is a kids favourite way of playing these days.

Licensing is where the money is, so that’s where the product is.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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vixen1700 said:
Was thinking something similar the other day walking past a horse chestnut tree with a load of conkers on the ground.

Do kids still play conkers at school?

I was explaining the joy of going conker hunting on a Sunday, putting holes in them and going to school with pockets stuffed with them and bits of string/laces. smile

Jumpers for goalposts, oh yes
My kids still collect conkers.

A lot of the toys they like are things that I played with as a child in the 80s like Lego and Playmobil.

sociopath

3,433 posts

95 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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tracer.smart said:
Looking to buy my kids stuff for their upcoming birthdays, and realised there are no toy shops anymore. The ones that remain, like Hamleys, sell cheap plastic rubbish or everything is movie merch.

I remember as a kid in the 80s how fun it was to visit a toy store, and you planned birthdays and christmas based on ideas from what was in the window and on the shelves.

Kids now have none of that inspiration. They have movies, whatever junk is on supermarket shelves, or what their mates have - which is usually the same crap from Tesco.

And where a Hornby train or Matchbox car cost a few quid back then, the equivalent are ten or twenty times the price now and only online - like they are aimed at adults, not for kids.

What happened to this sector?
Hornby were never cheap for working class kids. I had one, second hand, engine, could never afford a second

Antony Moxey

10,692 posts

248 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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If you’re talking prices, don’t look at the big Lego Technic sets unless you’re sitting down.

vixen1700

29,002 posts

299 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Been clearing out my mum's house recently (now in a care home) and came across some great old stuff from the '70s when I was a kid. Christmas games like Rebound and Crossfire.

Real old proper toy-shop stuff. cool

Radec

5,947 posts

76 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Just go to Smyth's they have most toys you can think of from Matchbox cars to wooden trainsets to PlayStations/Xbox and everything in between old school and new.

Growing up in the 80's Toys R Us and Toymaster were the big shops around me.
Most of the stuff in there back then was radio controlled or movie/cartoon tie in's, not much has changed in my experience apart from newer tech.


x5tuu

12,781 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Some department stores have traditional style toy departments - fenwicks in Newcastle certainly does and has a reasonable mix of the new stuff mentioned and ‘older’ type toys

23.7

28,961 posts

212 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Remember the 6d tray?

Steamer

14,179 posts

242 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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23.7 said:
Remember the 6d tray?
hehe D'ho.. Just spent at least 30 seconds thinking 'what on earth is 6d technology?!'

..then the penny dropped.

DodgyGeezer

48,995 posts

219 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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vixen1700 said:
Was thinking something similar the other day walking past a horse chestnut tree with a load of conkers on the ground.

Do kids still play conkers at school?

I was explaining the joy of going conker hunting on a Sunday, putting holes in them and going to school with pockets stuffed with them and bits of string/laces. smile

Jumpers for goalposts, oh yes
I think I'm right in saying that 'elf n safety' put paid to conkering?

bigandclever

14,350 posts

267 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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DodgyGeezer said:
I think I'm right in saying that 'elf n safety' put paid to conkering?
Yeah… no.

jet_noise

6,081 posts

211 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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More goalpost jumpers, memory triggered by OP:

Hamleys was where we (sister & me) went to spend our "Christmas money". Given as postal orders often. Topped up with savings from my Huckleberry Hound moneybox.
From suburban Orpington, train to town, underground, and if we had a lot of/big stuff then that's the only time I can remember Mum/Dad taking a taxi. Late '60s.

Ziplobb

1,601 posts

313 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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our local Entertainer has stopped selling Lego told me its only online SO you cannot by Lego on the Isle of Wight any longer

p4cks

7,488 posts

228 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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I was in the local Smyths toy shop a month or so ago with my nephew looking for something for his birthday and there was absolutely fk all in.

I did see this, took a second take, and wondered who in their right mind would buy it.


BritishBlitz87

781 posts

77 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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bigandclever said:
Yeah… no.
It did in my school. They brought it back after a few years, but children have short memories and the skills/enthusiasm for the game was lost as the new kids like me never learned it and moved on to stuff like 40-40 it and British Bulldog (another banned game that was brought back in tag form but went full contact whenever the lunch ladies weren't looking hehe).


Edited by BritishBlitz87 on Saturday 2nd October 14:55

Donbot

4,194 posts

156 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Antony Moxey said:
If you’re talking prices, don’t look at the big Lego Technic sets unless you’re sitting down.
£250 for a lego car. Bargain hehe

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/toys/lego-and-...

I have to admit, after watching the video I now want one rofl

Edited by Donbot on Saturday 2nd October 14:54

aparna

1,156 posts

66 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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Video game industry is worth 100 billion a year. Follow the money!

You have to be 18+ to buy that Lego lambo, according to the website.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

186 months

Saturday 2nd October 2021
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video games are much cheaper now than when we were kids as are toys really. An app might be free with some adds an a PS game is what £50, 25 years ago they were £30 etc.

Plus why build lego with liited blocks when with mine craft you can build a whole city and then blow it up. Why push cars around the carpet when you can race any one you want Forza, need for speed etc.

Shame but that is technology