Female 007?

Poll: Female 007?

Total Members Polled: 280

Fine by me Guv: 11%
I don't care: 14%
How very dare you!: 75%
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Al Gorithum

Original Poster:

4,935 posts

231 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Is it OK for Bond to be female? Seems to be a contradiction to the purity of the Flemming novels, but then again there were arguments back in the day that 007 couldn't be blonde, but Daniel Craig is the best ever IMO.

Personally I don't think it's a good idea but I've been wrong many times before.

Thoughts?


Leon R

3,685 posts

119 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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007 is a callsign but that being said it has always been James Bond's callsign and therefore would feel to me more like an attempt to cash in on the popularity of the franchise more than anything else.

I have no issues with a female 00 agent under a different number.

Jamescrs

5,881 posts

88 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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I agree it should be a whole new character and franchise, not repurposing of the Bond franchise to make it fit.

chrisga

2,128 posts

210 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Surely James Bond is a man, but anyone could be re-assigned as the 007 number were something to happen to him.

Munter

31,330 posts

264 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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chrisga said:
Surely James Bond is a man, but anyone could be assigned the 007 number.
I can see this being the change. 007 could continue as the franchise, but by dropping the James part.

Anyway, so long as they keep convincing pretty ladies to shack up with them in exotic locations, I can go for a Woman in the role.

mat205125

17,790 posts

236 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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The current story direction has moved away from the possibility of "james bond" and 007 being an undercover name that's handed to new people over time, and towards that being the characters actual name and history .... hence the skyfall family home

Kinda means a gender shift isn't really on the cards

TorqueDirty

1,735 posts

242 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Jane Bond?

Evolved

4,059 posts

210 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Unless James is now a female name, I’m not sure how that’d work. However, we do live in a more forward thinking time, so who knows. We have men competing as women in high profile sports, so a female James Bond, why not. confused

DodgyGeezer

46,550 posts

213 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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What's wrong with developing an all female persona and backstory rather than just try and do it the lazy way and just sex-change?

DFLR

857 posts

56 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Barbara Broccoli has said the role will always be male under her stewardship.

Jamescrs

5,881 posts

88 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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DodgyGeezer said:
What's wrong with developing an all female persona and backstory rather than just try and do it the lazy way and just sex-change?
Completely agree,

I think it would give any future film far more credibility, and probably make a better film overall.

Zoon

7,216 posts

144 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Leon R said:
007 is a callsign but that being said it has always been James Bond's callsign and therefore would feel to me more like an attempt to cash in on the popularity of the franchise more than anything else.

I have no issues with a female 00 agent under a different number.
Best not watch the latest film then.

RizzoTheRat

28,018 posts

215 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Given how successful Marvel been with loads of films and tv series set in the same world, I'm amazed they haven't already done a spin off, either following another 00 or any one of the numerous other agents they seem to have scattered around the world, but still working for M and helped out by Q. That way you get around any of the moaning about changing an existing character.


liner33

10,861 posts

225 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Even Daniel Craig says there should simply be better roles for women rather than re-writing existing characters.

Don't think James Bond movies particularly appeal to most women, these ones in my life hate them.

If you write it to make it appeal then it wont be James Bond and likely would be nearly as successful either.

louiebaby

10,867 posts

214 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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RizzoTheRat said:
Given how successful Marvel been with loads of films and tv series set in the same world, I'm amazed they haven't already done a spin off, either following another 00 or any one of the numerous other agents they seem to have scattered around the world, but still working for M and helped out by Q. That way you get around any of the moaning about changing an existing character.
There was a plan for a spin off with Halle Berry as Jinx, I think. Did the writer's strike end that?

usn90

1,970 posts

93 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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No, no, just no

007 is James Bond
James Bond is 007
James Bond is a man


If there’s a market for a female undercover agent, fine make a new franchise, but leave this franchise well alone

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

154 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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"The name's Bond, Jane Bond"
"How do you like your hair"?
"Straightened, not frizzy"

Some things shouldn't change, just as the Terminator can only ever be Arnie, 007 should always be a man.
Other 00 agents could be created that could be a woman, but not 007.
A female 00 could successfully appear alongside Bond, but not instead of.
I think Bond films are successful as most blokes secretly wish they could be someone like Bond.

If I was a female actress and was offered the part of 007 I'd be concerned that I'd only been offered it for the film makers to appear to be PC.
I wouldn't expect a female 007 film to have the same ticket sales.


Edited by LeadFarmer on Monday 4th October 13:06

waynecyclist

13,594 posts

137 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Just no, much the same as doctor who it would be never be the same.

RizzoTheRat

28,018 posts

215 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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usn90 said:
If there’s a market for a female undercover agent, fine make a new franchise, but leave this franchise well alone
I think Atomic Blonde proved that a female spy movie could do well at the box office when done properly, so I think another franchise/character could be popular.

Leon R

3,685 posts

119 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Zoon said:
Leon R said:
007 is a callsign but that being said it has always been James Bond's callsign and therefore would feel to me more like an attempt to cash in on the popularity of the franchise more than anything else.

I have no issues with a female 00 agent under a different number.
Best not watch the latest film then.
Already have and without spoiling it I think you know that isn't what I mean.