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Jim H

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1,524 posts

211 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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It’s probably been done to death on here over the years.

The last film I watched about 6 months ago, which really took me out of the Living Room and blew me away was a film called “ Heal the Living”

I don’t usually watch films again except if it’s The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

I’m watching “Heat” right now, it’s on Netflix. I’ve seen it many times, i m sure I’ve got it on DVD. it is a true masterpiece.

The attention to detail is incredible.

It’s definitely worth another view to realise what a brilliant movie it truly is.

LordHaveMurci

12,322 posts

191 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Watched it again recently, such a great film.

Jim H

Original Poster:

1,524 posts

211 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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You know when you get sucked into one of those YouTube “wormholes”.

A few weeks ago, I saw a video about how they made the “shootout”

Coffee scene coming up, then I’ll turn the volume up for the Bank Scene / shootout.


normalbloke

8,445 posts

241 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Have you seen L.A Takedown?

Jim H

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1,524 posts

211 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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normalbloke said:
Have you seen L.A Takedown?
I have, many years ago mind.

I always thought that it was Michael Mann’s first attempt at “Heat”.

I certainly think on his second attempt he bloody aced it!

Davey S2

13,387 posts

276 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Jim H said:
You know when you get sucked into one of those YouTube “wormholes”.

A few weeks ago, I saw a video about how they made the “shootout”

Coffee scene coming up, then I’ll turn the volume up for the Bank Scene / shootout.
Ex SAS trooper Andy McNabb was a consultant on the film I believe. Had them all striping and reassembling the assault rifles over and over again so they knew them inside out and backwards.

Probably the best shootout scene ever.

belleair302

6,995 posts

229 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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What I like about the film are a few nods to Miami Vice the TV show. Plus an 850i BMW.

Jim H

Original Poster:

1,524 posts

211 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Yup. They certainly don’t make em like that anymore.

I remember my old man saying to me son: “ there is a new film coming out with Pacino and Di Niro, all the critics are talking about it”

My old man never got to see it, such a bloody shame.

Through my teens I grew up on “Miami Vice” .

I loved it. A visionary tv producer like no other Mr Mann.

Like I’ve said, I have seen Heat so many times, it’s nearly 3 bloody hours long! I only called in for a brief look - I did the lot. No matter how many times you watch it, it is such an incredible piece of work

If you’ve never seen it, I suggest you do.

Good night chaps.


Writhing

632 posts

131 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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One of my all time fave films...apart from the last two mins.

In my alternative ending, DeNiro would have evaded Pacino and managed to catch the flight. As he’s taking off he can see Brennerman looking at the plane and he realises what he’s had to sacrifice.

Which leads to sequel.

Ash_

5,965 posts

212 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Heat is the only film I've seen where the loudness of the gun-fire is remotely realistic. It's so loud it takes over everything, where as in most other films, it just doesn't seem to be as loud as it should be.

bristolbaron

5,332 posts

234 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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  • weirdo alert*
I’ve always had a problem with film where I’m completely engrossed throughout the duration, but once it’s ended I couldn’t tell you a thing about it. The better the film, the worse it is. I’ve watched Heat at least three times, each time with no memory of the storyline at all. I’d happily tell someone it’s up there with my favourite films, but I don’t recall the plot, a single scene, nothing.

See also: The departed.

entropy

6,199 posts

225 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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normalbloke said:
Have you seen L.A Takedown?
I know LA Takedown was a TV movie made on shoestring but it's laughably bad in comparison to Heat.





Mann's first movie Thief is a great companion piece. I'd go far as to say that in my eyes its the prequel to Heat.

LM240

5,395 posts

240 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Writhing said:
One of my all time fave films...apart from the last two mins.

In my alternative ending, DeNiro would have evaded Pacino and managed to catch the flight. As he’s taking off he can see Brennerman looking at the plane and he realises what he’s had to sacrifice.

Which leads to sequel.
Every time…. Don’t turn off, don’t turn off, just get on that plane and start fresh.

mike74

3,687 posts

154 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Ash_ said:
Heat is the only film I've seen where the loudness of the gun-fire is remotely realistic. It's so loud it takes over everything, where as in most other films, it just doesn't seem to be as loud as it should be.
I'm surprised you're not aware of the story behind that... when filming the shoot out scene they fully intended to dub the sound of gunshots onto it afterward, but the sound of the blanks echoing around the buildings sounded so good they left it as is, hence why it sounds so awesomely realistic.

Dick Dastardly

8,325 posts

285 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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My all time favourite film.

I saw it in the cinema over a quarter of a century ago (as a teenager and it had an interlude due to the long running time!) and I’ve probably watched it 10 times since.

To me, it’s one of very few films that I can’t find fault with. A perfect 10/10.

I just moved into a new house with a new girlfriend. I bought a big tv and sound system for the purpose of watching this film. It’ll be the first film we watching here together and as much as I can’t wait to see it again on this huge Samsung, it’s really a test for her to see if she’s a keeper. My ex wife thought Heat was boring - that was the beginning of the end.

LHRFlightman

2,190 posts

192 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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It's a truly magnificent film. One without fault in my opinion.

Macneil

1,056 posts

102 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Dick Dastardly said:
My all time favourite film.

I saw it in the cinema over a quarter of a century ago (as a teenager and it had an interlude due to the long running time!) and I’ve probably watched it 10 times since.

To me, it’s one of very few films that I can’t find fault with. A perfect 10/10.

I just moved into a new house with a new girlfriend. I bought a big tv and sound system for the purpose of watching this film. It’ll be the first film we watching here together and as much as I can’t wait to see it again on this huge Samsung, it’s really a test for her to see if she’s a keeper. My ex wife thought Heat was boring - that was the beginning of the end.
You might have to demean yourself with Ralph just to get closure with her if she doesn't like it

Scabutz

8,700 posts

102 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Not sure anyone has ever mentioned Heat on here before. Joking. Of course they have.

It's a great movie. One of Manns early films, and arguably his best. He made some great movies after, but then fell off a cliff.

I've heard the shootout has been used in US Marine training videos as a perfect example of a tactical withdrawal and how to cycle a weapon. Not sure I've ever seen any evidence for this beyond a bloke on the Internet says so mind.

But who cares. Its a brilliant moviez and for anyone lucky enough to have seen it in the cinema, or have a decent home cinema set up the shootout is fking amazing.

mike74

3,687 posts

154 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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My only minor disappointment is the ending, I would have preferred a happy ending with Mcauley driving off into the night to start a new life for himself rather than getting himself killed by carrying out a pointless act of revenge on an irrelevant idiot hick, it seems completely out of character for what was such a cool headed and professional criminal.

Ash_

5,965 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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mike74 said:
Ash_ said:
Heat is the only film I've seen where the loudness of the gun-fire is remotely realistic. It's so loud it takes over everything, where as in most other films, it just doesn't seem to be as loud as it should be.
I'm surprised you're not aware of the story behind that... when filming the shoot out scene they fully intended to dub the sound of gunshots onto it afterward, but the sound of the blanks echoing around the buildings sounded so good they left it as is, hence why it sounds so awesomely realistic.
No, I didn't know that, it definitely makes sense as it has made the movie the best film for gunshot Sound FX IMO.