Cooling fan runs on after engine shut down ?
Cooling fan runs on after engine shut down ?
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pcn1

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1,346 posts

249 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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My 2011 Ford Focus 1.6 petrol engine has just started to show this habit.
Its never done it before, but for the past few days after a regular journey (no heavy stop/start traffic) I'll turn off the engine and the fan will run on for maybe a minute.

The temp indicator is at the "normal" point, but a spanner man once told me these gauges are made to always read in the middle as long as the engine temp is within a certain safe range. This was done to stop owners of cars complaining if the temp needle didn't always point exactly in the "middle". Is that true ?
So as a wild guess I'm wondering if the thermostat is not fully opening, allowing the engine to run just a little hotter than normal, but not enough to push the gauge over ?
If this makes sense I'll just fit a new thermostat in the first instance.

Cheers

E-bmw

13,496 posts

182 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Don't start randomly throwing parts at a car that doesn't necessarily have a problem.

First check the coolant level, then try to bleed it in case there is any air locked in the system, check there is actual anti freeze in the system as it is also anti-boil, you can also get a thermometer & check various points in the system to make sure there is flow/heat where it should be.

Lastly, yes, the gauges are normally less sensitive around the "normal" setting such that slight discrepancies aren't shown.

spikeyhead

20,502 posts

227 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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pcn1 said:
The temp indicator is at the "normal" point, but a spanner man once told me these gauges are made to always read in the middle as long as the engine temp is within a certain safe range. This was done to stop owners of cars complaining if the temp needle didn't always point exactly in the "middle". Is that true ?

Cheers
It's not a gauge, it a digitally controlled indicator. They'll be programmed to sit in the middle for any temperature between "reasonably warm" and "not quite hot enough to alert the driver but very close."

Northernboy

12,642 posts

287 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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As a first step why not try taking it easy for the last mile?

pcn1

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1,346 posts

249 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Northernboy said:
As a first step why not try taking it easy for the last mile?
As I mentioned, no heavy traffic and I'm only doing 30/40mph for the last mile. All very sedate ! biggrin

Northernboy

12,642 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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pcn1 said:
As I mentioned, no heavy traffic and I'm only doing 30/40mph for the last mile. All very sedate ! biggrin
Sorry, I’d missed that.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Check the coolant level etc (I wouldn't bother bleeding it etc just yet), if all good then get yourself a cheap OBD tool and check what the temperature is.

FunkyNige

9,836 posts

305 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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E-bmw said:
Lastly, yes, the gauges are normally less sensitive around the "normal" setting such that slight discrepancies aren't shown.
Would one of those bluetooth OBD port readers show the real temperature?

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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FunkyNige said:
Would one of those bluetooth OBD port readers show the real temperature?
Yes, water and oil temps are standard OBD params so they should show up on any tool.

Or, even better, you could use FORScan: https://forscan.org/home.html

Works with cheap/generic ELM327 tools quite happily, including bluetooth ones.

pcn1

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1,346 posts

249 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Just checked the coolant and its below the min level in the expansion tank. (I get this car serviced by a garage, last time about 3 months ago)
So hopefully that is the reason why, and will top it up later.
But I didn't get a low level warning on the dash !

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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pcn1 said:
But I didn't get a low level warning on the dash !
Does it have a sensor for it? Not many do.