Payday being moved to after direct debit dates
Payday being moved to after direct debit dates
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Craikeybaby

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12,082 posts

254 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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I've just been informed that my payday is going to be pushed back from the 25th of the month, to the 6th of the following month. The justification for this is that two companies have merged and that they are aligning, which I sort of expected when the companies merged.

However, pretty much all of my direct debits go out between the 27th and 1st of the following month. So can see the potential for a cash flow issue at the changeover point, where I basically will not be paid in April next year... Fortunately, there is a bit of time to prepare, but other than trying to build up a bit of a buffer, I am not sure exactly what I need to do. Am I best changing direct debits/standing orders now? Or gradually changing them over the coming months?

mikey_b

2,675 posts

74 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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Craikeybaby said:
I've just been informed that my payday is going to be pushed back from the 25th of the month, to the 6th of the following month. The justification for this is that two companies have merged and that they are aligning, which I sort of expected when the companies merged.

However, pretty much all of my direct debits go out between the 27th and 1st of the following month. So can see the potential for a cash flow issue at the changeover point, where I basically will not be paid in April next year... Fortunately, there is a bit of time to prepare, but other than trying to build up a bit of a buffer, I am not sure exactly what I need to do. Am I best changing direct debits/standing orders now? Or gradually changing them over the coming months?
Use your online banking portal to get a list of DDs, contact them one by one and move the date back to the 10th or whatever. Job done.

deggles

716 posts

231 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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Presumably this merger was part of a TUPE process? There should have been some consultation and chance to make representations on how this would affect you and other employees. If it is going to cause difficulties maybe they will offer short term loans to cover the ~2-week change over period.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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deggles said:
Presumably this merger was part of a TUPE process?
Just going through the TUPE process and our payday is moving from the 25th to the last Friday of the month. The other major change is the fact that they are getting rid of the company cars and they will not be getting renewed once the three year lease is over.

What is interesting is the people who are moaning about the moving of the pay day are the same people moaning about the company cars. I just found it interesting that the people who are obsessed about having the company car are the very people who sail so close to the wind they cannot cope with payday moving by a few days.

InitialDave

15,078 posts

148 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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If it's a permanent change, I'd just move the DD dates.

Craikeybaby

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12,082 posts

254 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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deggles said:
Presumably this merger was part of a TUPE process? There should have been some consultation and chance to make representations on how this would affect you and other employees. If it is going to cause difficulties maybe they will offer short term loans to cover the ~2-week change over period.
During the TUPE process we were told that it would not change rolleyes

_Yeti

400 posts

121 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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With Monzo bank you can set up your direct debits to come out of a "pot" automatically. So when you get paid you move the month's DD amount into there and then forget about it. It sorts everything out beyond that. But if you're going to change banks you might as well just contact the companies and move the date as above. Much easier!

CarCrazyDad

4,280 posts

64 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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Craikeybaby said:
deggles said:
Presumably this merger was part of a TUPE process? There should have been some consultation and chance to make representations on how this would affect you and other employees. If it is going to cause difficulties maybe they will offer short term loans to cover the ~2-week change over period.
During the TUPE process we were told that it would not change rolleyes
Do you have that in writing?

Gin and Ultrasonic

341 posts

68 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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_Yeti said:
With Monzo bank you can set up your direct debits to come out of a "pot" automatically. So when you get paid you move the month's DD amount into there and then forget about it. It sorts everything out beyond that. But if you're going to change banks you might as well just contact the companies and move the date as above. Much easier!
This doesn't really solve the problem of now having to pay two months worth of direct debits from one month's pay though?

I have a similar solution in that I have 2 current accounts - one that my pay goes into and used for general spending, and another that I pay a fixed amount in to pay all my dd's. I'd recommend this approach to anyone who struggles with money (obviously they won't be on here biggrin ).

The company I work for also did this - moved from 15th to 22nd, and offered an interest free pay advance for that month to people if they needed it. We also ended up getting paid a bit more on the first new month due to getting paid later.

sjj84

2,396 posts

248 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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Just move your direct debit payments, bit of a ball ache if you've got lots admittedly but what other option have you got.
Our payday move from the 15th to the 25th last year, we were given £100 for the aggravation.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

125 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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Craikeybaby said:
Fortunately, there is a bit of time to prepare, but other than trying to build up a bit of a buffer, I am not sure exactly what I need to do.
If you do this, then at least if you ever move jobs / are made redundant in the future you'll get one month "free" after your last pay cheque...

Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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This is the perfect reason why everybody should have at least one month's slack in their current accounts. Preferably 6 or 12 in case they lose their job.

I just got involved in a joint birthday jolly with about 10 others. The cost each was £5.55. The organiser asked everybody to pay their share by the end of the month. Why? Because that's when she gets paid. The concept of someone single with no children aged 35 with a decent job who doesn't have £55 slack staggers me.

Craikeybaby

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12,082 posts

254 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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Thanks all, looking into it I don't think it will be as bad as I initially feared.

CarCrazyDad said:
Craikeybaby said:
deggles said:
Presumably this merger was part of a TUPE process? There should have been some consultation and chance to make representations on how this would affect you and other employees. If it is going to cause difficulties maybe they will offer short term loans to cover the ~2-week change over period.
During the TUPE process we were told that it would not change rolleyes
Do you have that in writing?
Probably, but I expect that there are going to be other battles more worth fighting...

Gin and Ultrasonic said:
_Yeti said:
With Monzo bank you can set up your direct debits to come out of a "pot" automatically. So when you get paid you move the month's DD amount into there and then forget about it. It sorts everything out beyond that. But if you're going to change banks you might as well just contact the companies and move the date as above. Much easier!
This doesn't really solve the problem of now having to pay two months worth of direct debits from one month's pay though?

I have a similar solution in that I have 2 current accounts - one that my pay goes into and used for general spending, and another that I pay a fixed amount in to pay all my dd's. I'd recommend this approach to anyone who struggles with money (obviously they won't be on here biggrin ).

The company I work for also did this - moved from 15th to 22nd, and offered an interest free pay advance for that month to people if they needed it. We also ended up getting paid a bit more on the first new month due to getting paid later.
I have a Monzo account, but rarely use it these days. I do similar get paid into my account, then a set amount goes into a joint account for bills etc. Within a few days of payday all my regular payments have gone out of my account and I am just left with my spending (petrol) money for the month. I just need to shift that back!

Simpo Two said:
This is the perfect reason why everybody should have at least one month's slack in their current accounts. Preferably 6 or 12 in case they lose their job.

I just got involved in a joint birthday jolly with about 10 others. The cost each was £5.55. The organiser asked everybody to pay their share by the end of the month. Why? Because that's when she gets paid. The concept of someone single with no children aged 35 with a decent job who doesn't have £55 slack staggers me.
If I have money in my current account I'll spend it. I have a "rainy day fund" in a S&S ISA, but would rather not dip into it unless needed.

Craikeybaby

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12,082 posts

254 months

Wednesday 24th November 2021
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To tie up the thread - it was all about nothing...

The goal posts have moved too many times with the merger (and associated office move) and "WFH with occasional trips to the office" became, "you need to be in the office at least once a week", with the office a 90 minute drive away that is too much. So I have declined the offer of a role in the merged organisation and am being made redundant.

I've got a new job lined up, no idea what the pay date is there...

Terminator X

20,533 posts

233 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Illegal to pay later than last day of the month I thought eg if you start PAYE work 1st of the month then you have to be paid by the end of that month then at monthly cycles assuming you are paid monthly.

TX.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

125 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Craikeybaby said:
The goal posts have moved too many times with the merger (and associated office move) and "WFH with occasional trips to the office" became, "you need to be in the office at least once a week", with the office a 90 minute drive away that is too much. So I have declined the offer of a role in the merged organisation and am being made redundant.
Sorry to hear that, enjoy the payoff (if there is one) and good luck with the job hunt.

Craikeybaby

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12,082 posts

254 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Payoff is statutory, but I have been there for a while.

Already got new job lined up, it is lower pay, but quarterly bonus, so different cashflow issues, but payoff as buffer.

Craikeybaby

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12,082 posts

254 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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And the new job will be paying me on the 5th, time to start moving my direct debits...

V8 Stang

4,507 posts

212 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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Most will let you move your DD to when you like in the month.

Im paid weekly, so i have all the big DD spread out through the month.

Mortgage comes out in week 1, Car PCP week 2, Credit card 1week 3, Credit card 2 week 4.

So my balance is broadly the same throughout the month.