'Drivel'- if enough of us complain will it change?
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I have just calmed down from the utter sh*t that was friday's programme & have seen enough posts to know that others feel the same way.......
If enough of us e-mail or phone Channel 4 and complain about the current format/quality they might improve it for the next series.
Examples
1. How can they fail to mention the cooked clutches on the 2 Porkers (see previous threads) ? Can you imagine what would have been said if it was the Tiv......
2. Why did they focus on the colour of the Tamora in such a negative way ? Don't they realise you can choose the colour you want ?
3. What the
is that Car Sumo sh*te ?
Why do we put up with this sh*t ????
It is one of the few motoring programmes on TV and unless we complain it won't get any better !!!
>>> Edited by N17 TVR on Monday 14th October 17:11
If enough of us e-mail or phone Channel 4 and complain about the current format/quality they might improve it for the next series.
Examples
1. How can they fail to mention the cooked clutches on the 2 Porkers (see previous threads) ? Can you imagine what would have been said if it was the Tiv......
2. Why did they focus on the colour of the Tamora in such a negative way ? Don't they realise you can choose the colour you want ?
3. What the
is that Car Sumo sh*te ? Why do we put up with this sh*t ????
It is one of the few motoring programmes on TV and unless we complain it won't get any better !!!
>>> Edited by N17 TVR on Monday 14th October 17:11
Well, I agree. It was total and utter shite. Presented by two totally biased morons and a so called racing driver ( read ego manic who got sacked for his inability to follow his employers wishes last year) who clearly enjoyed driving the TVR, pootled round in the Porsche and then voted for the Porsche!!!The twat couldn't resist the childish temptation to whinge about the lack of ABS!! I watched it with a friend who has owned Porsches and he pointed out that with the hugely powerful brakes on modern TVRs you don't need ABS and that most people who buy a TVR don't want it anyway....
As for the Sumo thing, that about sums up the programme. The worst motoring show ever produced IMO. If both the Tamoras had cooked their clutches we would have never heard the end of it, half the f****g programme would have been devoted to it.
Don't complain, just switch the telly over next time it comes on. It is and always has been total and utter f*****g rubbish. I will only bother with it in future if Penny gets her tits out.
Rant over....and I really enjoyed that!!!
As for the Sumo thing, that about sums up the programme. The worst motoring show ever produced IMO. If both the Tamoras had cooked their clutches we would have never heard the end of it, half the f****g programme would have been devoted to it.
Don't complain, just switch the telly over next time it comes on. It is and always has been total and utter f*****g rubbish. I will only bother with it in future if Penny gets her tits out.
Rant over....and I really enjoyed that!!!
apache said: I emailed the f**kers to complain and the reply came to say they knew exactly what the public wanted and in no way felt their programming was inappropriate......in other words 'it's my trainset and I'll do what I want with it'
At least you got a reply!
I emailed them 3 or 4 weeks back, and made my point concisely and objectively without being rude or offensive. I am still waiting for my reply. I suppose they must be thinking about the answer, as there was nothing in the content of my email that they could argue with. The program IS appaling, FACT!
As for someone replying that they, "knew exactly what the public wanted and in no way felt their programming was inappropriate", this just prooves the arrogance of the people who produce the program. WE are the public, WE know what we want, WE think their program is inappropriate, and the majority of PH'ers agree!
I for one have already stopped watching the program. One final point. How do they think they know what the viewing public want? Did they poll a classroom full of 13 year old schoolboys?
Jas.
Guys, I think you're being a little bit hard on them.
yes their programme is shite, but that's because most of their audience are mindless imbeciles who don't want anything too challenging crashing into their living room.
If Driven and 5th Gear or whatever were as we would really like them, there'd be a problem. Most advertisers wouldn't want to pay primetime money to be next to something so 'outrageous and unnecessary'. Driven is sponsored by an insurance company ferchrissakes; talk about dull. In it's timeslot it competes against re-runs, cruddy 'fly-on-the-wall'/real world documentaries - it's real moron territory.
And most of the people who'd be interested in the PH interpretation of Driven are actually in the pub or still at work at that time of night.
So why complain about it? Look: Last Friday's might not have been high brow, but I really did derive pleasant amusement from it.
That sumo thing might be daft but as one off entertainment you might say they were consciously taking the piss out of themselves - I hope they keep it to the one show though - hopefully this week palette racing and next week something different again.. who knows what wonderful levels of shit they can stoop too. Laugh at them - whether they want you to or not.
The TVR vs Porsche bit.. so what if they didn't mention the Porker breaking down? They probably want to get their hands on other Porsches down the road and to have slagged them off on primetime TV, shattering the illusion of one of their core values (reliability) they're hardly likely to be compliant when Puny Mammory wants to play jelly in a Cayenne.
They preferred the Porker, but the public preferred the TVR. Me, I don't understand what this thing is with red interiors in Boxters.. driving it with the hood up must feel like sitting in the intestinal tracts of a large quadruped. But so what? (Oops.. I'm going in Don's on Friday
) Would they have told us if the Tamora had broken down? Well the cynic in me says yes they would. But it clearly didn't, so they couldn't, so be smug about that whay don'tya?
There are a million important things in the world which warrant the sort of dedication and perseverence you lot display. Attacking cretinous motoring programmes on the Idiot's Lantern isn't one of them!
Or better still, let their sponsors (More Than insurance - Royal & Sun Alliance) know that you'll not be watching the show any more and that you know a few thousand like-minded people ....
Don't complain to them - they sponsor Channel Five's 5th Gear - which is much better than the Drivel crap (IMO)
Drivel is sponsored by Direct Line Rescue. Annoy them and join the RAC or AA.
Paul
>> Edited by Rosso Paul on Monday 14th October 18:51
Yep- I agree with the others here. It may be a program about cars, but it's aimed at blokey bloke who runs his middle of the road motor (hopefully not in the middle of the road), NOT YOU. It's ratings stuff which means you're heading into lowest common denominator territory. I'll watch out of morbid curiosity; we've got car sumo so
is just round the corner by my reckoning. Ratings are sure to plummet..
flasher said:I will only bother with it in future if Penny gets her tits out.
You probably right Carzee..........
but I disagree with you on the basis that I always do, and find admitting that you are right may give the wrong impression
Seriously, the programme is bloody awful, biased nonsense and has a child-like level of factuality to it. The three of them all think they are experts which really gets up my nose.
The beauty of Clarkson was that he thinks like we do and slagged off anything boring whenever he got the chance. He didn't claim to be an expert but he wasn't scared to tell the truth. I guess most of us crave that honesty we used to get from him on Top Gear. I for one will never forget him slaughtering the Vectra!! Be interesting to see what the new TG is like with him at the helm...
but I disagree with you on the basis that I always do, and find admitting that you are right may give the wrong impression
Seriously, the programme is bloody awful, biased nonsense and has a child-like level of factuality to it. The three of them all think they are experts which really gets up my nose.
The beauty of Clarkson was that he thinks like we do and slagged off anything boring whenever he got the chance. He didn't claim to be an expert but he wasn't scared to tell the truth. I guess most of us crave that honesty we used to get from him on Top Gear. I for one will never forget him slaughtering the Vectra!! Be interesting to see what the new TG is like with him at the helm...
Scruff400 said: I met a rather arrogant man at a "media" do once. What an utter Tw@.
Don't think any usefull suggestions will make it into his little world.
Now writing/filming/editing a pilot of our own might get a few bites.
Scruff,
Any ideas of content ? You would also need to get a good idea of content for futire programmes (12 prog series). A lot of thought/preparation required for potentially no return.
I may have a few ideas for you if you are serious.
Bob
Tiff moaned on Top Gear how the GT2 shred its fan belt while he was hooning it and he couldnt drive it anymore as Porsche neglected to have any in the country, but I dont see Porsche not lending Top Gear/5th gear any more cars.
Im dead unhappy they couldnt tell the truth, I admit personally I prefer Pork over Blackpool rock, but I do get unhappy at how the only British owned & run supercar manufacturer gets all the stick if another manufacturer has quality issues this time round.
Whats the driven E mail address? they can't ignore this if all of us (20,000ish Ted?) E mail them
Im dead unhappy they couldnt tell the truth, I admit personally I prefer Pork over Blackpool rock, but I do get unhappy at how the only British owned & run supercar manufacturer gets all the stick if another manufacturer has quality issues this time round.
Whats the driven E mail address? they can't ignore this if all of us (20,000ish Ted?) E mail them
bob the planner said:I'll do the editing...
Scruff400 said: I met a rather arrogant man at a "media" do once. What an utter Tw@.
Don't think any usefull suggestions will make it into his little world.
Now writing/filming/editing a pilot of our own might get a few bites.
Scruff,
Any ideas of content ? You would also need to get a good idea of content for futire programmes (12 prog series). A lot of thought/preparation required for potentially no return.
I may have a few ideas for you if you are serious.
Bob
dennisthemenace said: waht about dropping a link to this thread in the e mail ?
Even better still - take part in the drivel audience. Check out the link below for details of where to send your e-mail application. Filming is 23/24 Oct near Ipswich. Go and sit in the audience and constantly ask them how they rig the test results.......
www.4car.co.uk/jsp/main.jsp?lnk=220&storyid=1617
flasher said: The worst motoring show ever produced IMO.
Now now, its not quite as bad as Carnage on bravo was
But yeah I agree, anytime I have seen it its been rubish, I just don't watch it anymore
At the end of the day a common numptie complaint you would hear people say abot top gear was that it was a stupid show with cars we couldn't even dream of driving, whats the point? Therefore if they did make it for car fans rather then just the average person it would get really low viewing figures IMHO, a car show purely for car nuts with no rubbish would get a low viewing rate therefore the big sports car companys wouldn't give cars to them and we would be left with the crap that was on granada men and motors (when I used to have it)
Luca Brazzi said:
bob the planner said:I'll do the editing...
Scruff400 said: I met a rather arrogant man at a "media" do once. What an utter Tw@.
Don't think any usefull suggestions will make it into his little world.
Now writing/filming/editing a pilot of our own might get a few bites.
You're more than welcome - I'll grade it and online it after...
Scruff,
Any ideas of content ? You would also need to get a good idea of content for future programmes (12 prog series). A lot of thought/preparation required for potentially no return.
I may have a few ideas for you if you are serious.
Bob
Hi Bob,
Usually a series of this type will take anywhere between 1-6 month planning (usually with copious amounts of bolivian marching powder and frayed egos), then specing the equipment to use and hiring a crew to shoot, then buying the drugs and accomodation for said crew. Then we throw all 3000 badly shot, badly labeled tapes of various formats (HD, SD, BETA, DVCAM, mini DVCAM, DVD, cheap Sanyo digi camerea memory strip) at Lucca and he puts it together with simple effects in a meaningfull and witty and entertaining flow of consiousness. Then all the shots get coloured in and well expensive digi effects and snappy titles added. Did I mention drugs. Then the important people come in and watch it and change everything. Then it goes to dubbing and the voice over and proper car noises are put on, and most of us will be sat in the theatre arguing about Carpenters versus Nine Inch Nails. Then the pictures get recut. then it gets redubbed, for nothing, with no time left. Then when the UK transmition tape is being put in the transmitter they decide to recut the US versions.
That's why I haven't been posting much recently.
Yup sounds like fun,
Can I be the series producer - then I get to drive everything.
That's why I've not posted
Edited to say, you can't polish a turd - so it's entirely down to planning at the outset. And if you put a spotty oik just out of uni in charge of a project, massive compromises have to be made in the final stages resulting in spotty oik bulshitting his bosses and the staff looking incompetant - and if he had some good ideas at the start it wouldn't be nearly so bad. Still...
Still interested?
>> Edited by Scruff400 on Tuesday 15th October 17:00
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