Audi e tron GT
Discussion
Hi all
Did a search but couldn't find much.
I'm familiar with audi and their build quality and service. Tesla not so much.
Tesla m3lr/p would be the obvious choice for me (as supercharging Station 5mins away) but most owners I know are always moaning about quality control and other issues.
I want to give the e tron a chance but can't find much information from owners at present.
Anyone got one? What are they like to live with?
I do 100 miles a week, and have no access to off road parking, so I'll be using public charging exclusively.
TIA
Did a search but couldn't find much.
I'm familiar with audi and their build quality and service. Tesla not so much.
Tesla m3lr/p would be the obvious choice for me (as supercharging Station 5mins away) but most owners I know are always moaning about quality control and other issues.
I want to give the e tron a chance but can't find much information from owners at present.
Anyone got one? What are they like to live with?
I do 100 miles a week, and have no access to off road parking, so I'll be using public charging exclusively.
TIA
You'll need access to something like 4 kWh a day, a bit more in winter as consumption goes up when it's colder.
This is predominantly due to higher consumption of the climate control but also due to external loss mechanisms that increase with decreasing temperature.
Both aero drag losses and tyre rolling resistance increase with lower temperature and whilst these are both somewhat irrelevant to an ICE, on an EV they do make a difference.
Maybe have a look a what power rating the chargers you will have access to are and for how long you would be on them.
I've seen several in the flesh and they really look the part, better than a Taycan to me. Good choice if you can make it work charging wise.
This is predominantly due to higher consumption of the climate control but also due to external loss mechanisms that increase with decreasing temperature.
Both aero drag losses and tyre rolling resistance increase with lower temperature and whilst these are both somewhat irrelevant to an ICE, on an EV they do make a difference.
Maybe have a look a what power rating the chargers you will have access to are and for how long you would be on them.
I've seen several in the flesh and they really look the part, better than a Taycan to me. Good choice if you can make it work charging wise.
I've owned a Model 3 Long Range for nearly a year and I think it's a great car. But I personally wouldn't recommend an electric car to someone that can't charge at home. Perhaps it'll change in the next few years but I think one of the biggest plus points of having an electric car is leaving the house every day with the equivalent of a full tank of fuel. Using the public infrastructure when away from home, on a long journey etc is no big deal - but I don't think i'd want to be doing it every day or week.
Thanks for the above. There is a 350kw ionity on my commute, there are 2 or 3 50kw charging stations nearer to my destination.
dazmanultra said:
I've owned a Model 3 Long Range for nearly a year and I think it's a great car. But I personally wouldn't recommend an electric car to someone that can't charge at home. Perhaps it'll change in the next few years but I think one of the biggest plus points of having an electric car is leaving the house every day with the equivalent of a full tank of fuel. Using the public infrastructure when away from home, on a long journey etc is no big deal - but I don't think i'd want to be doing it every day or week.
Thanks I appreciate that. However from a company tax perspective an electric car makes financial sense, although practically difficultUK model 3's are now coming from china, build quality is supposed to be great now.
100 miles a week isnt much, 4 mils per kwh means 25kwh , perhaps 35-40 in winter with preheating etc. Thats not long at a SC or 350kw charger.
The tesla can use both chargers, the GT not so much yet until the SC network opens up to others.
As for which car depends on your budget and what you want out of it.
100 miles a week isnt much, 4 mils per kwh means 25kwh , perhaps 35-40 in winter with preheating etc. Thats not long at a SC or 350kw charger.
The tesla can use both chargers, the GT not so much yet until the SC network opens up to others.
As for which car depends on your budget and what you want out of it.
Harry Metcalfe reviewed one...
https://youtu.be/q2jvFT2a7os
If you're approaching the whole EV thing with an open mind it sounds wonderful when he stands on the loud pedal!
https://youtu.be/q2jvFT2a7os
If you're approaching the whole EV thing with an open mind it sounds wonderful when he stands on the loud pedal!
I think the biggest point is what type of charger is available to you and thats convenient. If its public chargers, great. If its the Tesla network, great. If its both, hey even more choice! But its probably worth figuring this out and what works the best for you first. As you dont have access to at home charging, this is probably the biggest impact. The majority of EV drivers make use of charging at home or work, so the public networks are for going further afield or convenience.
That said though, I did see a review comparing a drive from Edinburgh to London with the e-tron and Tesla. Not much in it on time as yes, the e-tron had to charge more often, but it could charge much faster. So what you lost on the range, you gained in a time to wait for a charge. Horses for courses of course, but dont forget that the Audi is quite a bit more expensive than say a M3, so it really depends on what you are looking for though. I would suggest the e-tron is a nicer place to sit for a longer time, but ease of charging network obviously leans towards Tesla.
That said though, I did see a review comparing a drive from Edinburgh to London with the e-tron and Tesla. Not much in it on time as yes, the e-tron had to charge more often, but it could charge much faster. So what you lost on the range, you gained in a time to wait for a charge. Horses for courses of course, but dont forget that the Audi is quite a bit more expensive than say a M3, so it really depends on what you are looking for though. I would suggest the e-tron is a nicer place to sit for a longer time, but ease of charging network obviously leans towards Tesla.
RobDickinson said:
The Audi is about twice the price isnt it before options?
For the RS maybe, but not base model.https://www.carwow.co.uk/audi/e-tron-gt/lease#gref
If you think the two are rivals, get the Tesla Model 3. It's about half the price.
The E-tron GT looks properly buff. I like it, it has a lot of muscle car ques.
If I could just pick either, I'd go with the Etron GT. But then I'd have the Model S in sight and that's a damn sight more practical than those...
In short:
The E-tron GT looks properly buff. I like it, it has a lot of muscle car ques.
If I could just pick either, I'd go with the Etron GT. But then I'd have the Model S in sight and that's a damn sight more practical than those...
In short:
- Tesla Model 3 is the head over heart choice. It's at a reasonable price point compared to what you get in return and generally a very good car.
- Tesla Model S if you want boatloads of space and rocketship acceleration. I think it looks a bit better but that comes with a price. Dynamically also more towards comfort than the Model 3, which feels a bit more planted.
- Etron GT/Taycan are about as big on the outside as a Model S but the size of a Model 3 inside. Less practical but more expensive choice, look a lot better (coming from a Tesla owner) and are definitely more driver-oriented.
Byker28i said:
Chatting to a guy with an e-tron the other day as it looked really nice. He did say he got around 3 miles per kw and was the only disappointing thing about it. He did say it was a heavy car, or is that more his heavy foot?
My Model S does about the same on motorways, not really an issue imho.Iirc it's about 2.3 tonnes. So a 1.8 tonne luxury car with 500kg's of batteries, just like the Model S.
Byker28i said:
Chatting to a guy with an e-tron the other day as it looked really nice. He did say he got around 3 miles per kw and was the only disappointing thing about it. He did say it was a heavy car, or is that more his heavy foot?
E-tron or e-tron gt?The GT is built off the pure ev Taycan platform whereas the regular e-tron was a bit more of a compromise and an SUV.
MaxFromage said:
With no off-road parking and a supercharger round the corner, I wouldn't even consider the Audi to be honest, as charging outside the Tesla network is too hit and miss.
Maybe you missed the bit about an ionity 350kw charger on their commute and with the charge profile of the car it would charge much quicker than a Tesla on a superchargerByker28i said:
Chatting to a guy with an e-tron the other day as it looked really nice. He did say he got around 3 miles per kw and was the only disappointing thing about it. He did say it was a heavy car, or is that more his heavy foot?
If it’s a regular etron that is about 50% more than the average driver of then seems to get (from what I can see)Freakuk said:
As daft as my question is, for the expense involved for an EV over ICE is it really worth it for 100 miles per week?
Can't speak for the UK, but here in BE/NL, getting something like a Model S would equate to an ICE half the price regarding tax incentives. So think BMW 520d.So while an etron GT/Taycan is even more expensive, there's nothing that comes close for a similar TCO.
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