Five dead in Norway bow and arrow attack
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That looks like a bog standard narrow recurve arrow there which I’d always assumed it would be difficult to actually kill with due to the lack of actual explosive impact. After all it’s only going to make a single hole in your body and you’d need to be unlucky for it to actually hit anything vital.
Either my thinking is completely off or the archer has been skilled enough for head shots.
Target arrows can, quite easily, be retrofitted with more lethal tips. Using a fairly cheap compound bow and hunting arrows I could easily get a kill ratio like this.
I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
stitched said:
Target arrows can, quite easily, be retrofitted with more lethal tips. Using a fairly cheap compound bow and hunting arrows I could easily get a kill ratio like this.
I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
They are not under-regulated. Knives and guns are over regulated.I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
stitched said:
Target arrows can, quite easily, be retrofitted with more lethal tips. Using a fairly cheap compound bow and hunting arrows I could easily get a kill ratio like this.
I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
Crossbow (any bow in fact) comes under exactly the same regulations as knives.I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
Ian Geary said:
skyrover said:
They are not under-regulated. Knives and guns are over regulated.
Well, we could argue that it's actually murderers that are under regulated.But until we get to a point where we can do that reliably, I think lethal weapons remain the best thing to regulate.
Ian Geary said:
Well, we could argue that it's actually murderers that are under regulated.
But until we get to a point where we can do that reliably, I think lethal weapons remain the best thing to regulate.
I think we should make murder illegal- that's about as regulated as it can get.But until we get to a point where we can do that reliably, I think lethal weapons remain the best thing to regulate.
I'm surprised this hasn't already been done.
skyrover said:
stitched said:
Target arrows can, quite easily, be retrofitted with more lethal tips. Using a fairly cheap compound bow and hunting arrows I could easily get a kill ratio like this.
I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
They are not under-regulated. Knives and guns are over regulated.I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
I'm not sure about the lethal tips/points, it's probably more about the total energy involved. There's other photos on the net which seem to indicate a normal target arrow, assuming the photo is of one of the arrows used of course.
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2021/10/13/several-kille...
Given most folks that come to our club to "have a go" usually struggle at hitting a 122cm target with a 15lb bow, it's clearly not someone who's just walked into a shop & bought a bow for a killing spree. It sounds to me like another nutcase and no amount of legislation is going to stop them from cropping up.
b2hbm said:
It sounds to me like another nutcase and no amount of legislation is going to stop them from cropping up.
Ohhhweee, slow your roll there cowboy this is the gubbermunt we are talking about..Just be glad it happened outside the UK, although these days anything happening anywhere can impact UK laws as we saw with the Charlie Hebdo attack resulting in the banning of MARS rifles here in the UK.
I expect some MP who has nothing else better to do will bring it up at some point just for the attention, in fact I can hear Karen smashing away on her keyboard now creating the .gov poll to ban them.
b2hbm said:
skyrover said:
stitched said:
Target arrows can, quite easily, be retrofitted with more lethal tips. Using a fairly cheap compound bow and hunting arrows I could easily get a kill ratio like this.
I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
They are not under-regulated. Knives and guns are over regulated.I've always thought bows and crossbows were under regulated, in the UK I can't carry a fixed blade knife over 4" but a crossbow is apparently fine.
I'm not sure about the lethal tips/points, it's probably more about the total energy involved. There's other photos on the net which seem to indicate a normal target arrow, assuming the photo is of one of the arrows used of course.
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2021/10/13/several-kille...
Given most folks that come to our club to "have a go" usually struggle at hitting a 122cm target with a 15lb bow, it's clearly not someone who's just walked into a shop & bought a bow for a killing spree. It sounds to me like another nutcase and no amount of legislation is going to stop them from cropping up.
I'm surprised at the amount of damage caused, Still think bows and, more so crossbows, should be regulated.
A friend of mine is into longbows, I've seen him split an engine block with an arrow.
stitched said:
gotoPzero said:
stitched said:
A friend of mine is into longbows, I've seen him split an engine block with an arrow.
Was it made of lego?
Norwegian police say that those killed (four women and one man, all between 50 and 70 years old) in Kongsberg were killed after the police first came in contact with the perpetrator.
The man, a Danish citizen in his 30s and resident in Kongsberg, has admitted carrying out the acts being investigated, but has not admitted criminal liability for them.
Police have been worried about the man in question being radicalised in the past, and say that he is convert to Islam.
The man, a Danish citizen in his 30s and resident in Kongsberg, has admitted carrying out the acts being investigated, but has not admitted criminal liability for them.
Police have been worried about the man in question being radicalised in the past, and say that he is convert to Islam.
king hell.I see the Police are now saying it may be a terrorist attack and that the offender is a Danish passport holder, so perhaps not an indigenous Dane
At the same time they have ordered the normally unarmed Police to carry firearms, which unless they were concerned about more attacks would seem strange
Edit to add
They are now saying the offender was a “Muslim convert” who was known to Police
At the same time they have ordered the normally unarmed Police to carry firearms, which unless they were concerned about more attacks would seem strange
Edit to add
They are now saying the offender was a “Muslim convert” who was known to Police
Edited by Earthdweller on Thursday 14th October 09:46
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