New M5 Ultimate here
Discussion
Everybody will come on and slate them, but the latest Pzero (last 2-3 years) is a great tyre once warmed through (prior version was poor).
I’ve ran them on my 812SF all summer and to be they offer more outright grip in the dry than the MPSport 4S (which have just gone on).
They do drop off in performance when tyre temperature under 20°. If you run winters then I wouldn’t bother switching; however not great when very cold (but then again from my experience, neither are the Michelin’s).
Give them a chance before binning them imo.
I’ve ran them on my 812SF all summer and to be they offer more outright grip in the dry than the MPSport 4S (which have just gone on).
They do drop off in performance when tyre temperature under 20°. If you run winters then I wouldn’t bother switching; however not great when very cold (but then again from my experience, neither are the Michelin’s).
Give them a chance before binning them imo.
garystoybox said:
Everybody will come on and slate them, but the latest Pzero (last 2-3 years) is a great tyre once warmed through (prior version was poor).
I’ve ran them on my 812SF all summer and to be they offer more outright grip in the dry than the MPSport 4S (which have just gone on).
They do drop off in performance when tyre temperature under 20°. If you run winters then I wouldn’t bother switching; however not great when very cold (but then again from my experience, neither are the Michelin’s).
Give them a chance before binning them imo.
Yes I will give them a go.I’ve ran them on my 812SF all summer and to be they offer more outright grip in the dry than the MPSport 4S (which have just gone on).
They do drop off in performance when tyre temperature under 20°. If you run winters then I wouldn’t bother switching; however not great when very cold (but then again from my experience, neither are the Michelin’s).
Give them a chance before binning them imo.
JMBMWM5 said:
Hi All, my new M5 has arrived at the dealers, it has Pirelli Tyres on it which I have never had on any of my "M" cars, they are these new PZ4, anyone got anything good to say about them?.
I will change them out if I don't like them. Thanks.
Pictures ASAP pleaseI will change them out if I don't like them. Thanks.
They're woeful, so order some MPS4S ASAP & get those P-Zero's in the bin.
Adding in some honest feedback, my Ultimate arrived with P-Zero's & initially I thought they were absolutely fine until I visited a track & straight away the lack of appropriate temp cycling & sidewall stiffness manifested itself so I went hunting MPS4S. Now if you're never going to visit a track &/or are not a frequent early morning hooligan, then perhaps just stick with the P Zeros until time to change, but do NOT replace with the same
Straight off I noticed the Michelins are ALOT quieter on the road & grip levels on the road & track are another level.
w8pmc said:
Pictures ASAP please
They're woeful, so order some MPS4S ASAP & get those P-Zero's in the bin.
Adding in some honest feedback, my Ultimate arrived with P-Zero's & initially I thought they were absolutely fine until I visited a track & straight away the lack of appropriate temp cycling & sidewall stiffness manifested itself so I went hunting MPS4S. Now if you're never going to visit a track &/or are not a frequent early morning hooligan, then perhaps just stick with the P Zeros until time to change, but do NOT replace with the same
Straight off I noticed the Michelins are ALOT quieter on the road & grip levels on the road & track are another level.
Thanks for the heads up, if they are noisey there going, I will not being tracking or driving like a Hooligan so they may do for the running-in faze.They're woeful, so order some MPS4S ASAP & get those P-Zero's in the bin.
Adding in some honest feedback, my Ultimate arrived with P-Zero's & initially I thought they were absolutely fine until I visited a track & straight away the lack of appropriate temp cycling & sidewall stiffness manifested itself so I went hunting MPS4S. Now if you're never going to visit a track &/or are not a frequent early morning hooligan, then perhaps just stick with the P Zeros until time to change, but do NOT replace with the same
Straight off I noticed the Michelins are ALOT quieter on the road & grip levels on the road & track are another level.
Will post Pictures once I detail the car over this weekend.
congratulations an exciting weekend ahead with a new car. Look forward to some pictures too.
I'm not a fan of Pirelli's either but accept that mine were probably not the latest version but I did notice a big improvement by less traction control light flashing on the dash when I swapped to Michelin on the M6 a few years ago. I notice a lot of powerful driver cars (Porsche) still come with P Zero's as standard so someone must like them?
If you're not pushing them too hard it would be a shame not to get some wear out of them and with your XDrive traction should be better anyway
I'm not a fan of Pirelli's either but accept that mine were probably not the latest version but I did notice a big improvement by less traction control light flashing on the dash when I swapped to Michelin on the M6 a few years ago. I notice a lot of powerful driver cars (Porsche) still come with P Zero's as standard so someone must like them?
If you're not pushing them too hard it would be a shame not to get some wear out of them and with your XDrive traction should be better anyway
JMBMWM5 said:
Hi All, my new M5 has arrived at the dealers, it has Pirelli Tyres on it which I have never had on any of my "M" cars, they are these new PZ4, anyone got anything good to say about them?.
I will change them out if I don't like them. Thanks.
Picked up my brand new LCI Ultimate as well from the same dealership as you (thanks again for the introduction!) and was surprised to see that it has PS4S tyres fitted from the factory - I get the impression that they may just be fitting whichever tyres the factory keeps in stock, but I opted for the 810M wheels, hence am not sure whether that has bearing on it.I will change them out if I don't like them. Thanks.
The demo LCI car which I test drove had the PZeros and I must confess that I found them more noisy than the Michelins on my pre-LCI (both PS4S and Cup2) so I was partly dreading the new car also turning up with them. I would agree with the sentiments already expressed that it's worth trying the Pirellis first, before making any decisions. I bought a spare set of 863M wheels for winter use and they will have PZero Winters fitted as Michelins winters are not available in the required sizes.
T4RRR said:
Picked up my brand new LCI Ultimate as well from the same dealership as you (thanks again for the introduction!) and was surprised to see that it has PS4S tyres fitted from the factory - I get the impression that they may just be fitting whichever tyres the factory keeps in stock, but I opted for the 810M wheels, hence am not sure whether that has bearing on it.
The demo LCI car which I test drove had the PZeros and I must confess that I found them more noisy than the Michelins on my pre-LCI (both PS4S and Cup2) so I was partly dreading the new car also turning up with them. I would agree with the sentiments already expressed that it's worth trying the Pirellis first, before making any decisions. I bought a spare set of 863M wheels for winter use and they will have PZero Winters fitted as Michelins winters are not available in the required sizes.
Hi Glad you got your M5 from the same dealers, Karl in service is a top guy, I got home tonight just in and TBH first impressions driving on the A11 to Attleborough the Pirelli's are quieter!! I will check to see that they are the latest but they must be, I will give them a go.The demo LCI car which I test drove had the PZeros and I must confess that I found them more noisy than the Michelins on my pre-LCI (both PS4S and Cup2) so I was partly dreading the new car also turning up with them. I would agree with the sentiments already expressed that it's worth trying the Pirellis first, before making any decisions. I bought a spare set of 863M wheels for winter use and they will have PZero Winters fitted as Michelins winters are not available in the required sizes.
Pictures to follow soon.
PS) Presentation was First class.
JMBMWM5 said:
BMW 810M 's they are an option wheel "Summer".
Didn't realise they had an 'option' wheel as defo didn't see one on the spec sheet.Edited by JMBMWM5 on Monday 18th October 08:58
Will be easier to clean than mine, that's for sure
Does look stunning that blue & had i spec'd a car rather than buying a built one, would have been my go-to colour.
JMBMWM5 said:
w8pmc said:
Pictures ASAP please
They're woeful, so order some MPS4S ASAP & get those P-Zero's in the bin.
Adding in some honest feedback, my Ultimate arrived with P-Zero's & initially I thought they were absolutely fine until I visited a track & straight away the lack of appropriate temp cycling & sidewall stiffness manifested itself so I went hunting MPS4S. Now if you're never going to visit a track &/or are not a frequent early morning hooligan, then perhaps just stick with the P Zeros until time to change, but do NOT replace with the same
Straight off I noticed the Michelins are ALOT quieter on the road & grip levels on the road & track are another level.
Thanks for the heads up, if they are noisey there going, I will not being tracking or driving like a Hooligan so they may do for the running-in faze.They're woeful, so order some MPS4S ASAP & get those P-Zero's in the bin.
Adding in some honest feedback, my Ultimate arrived with P-Zero's & initially I thought they were absolutely fine until I visited a track & straight away the lack of appropriate temp cycling & sidewall stiffness manifested itself so I went hunting MPS4S. Now if you're never going to visit a track &/or are not a frequent early morning hooligan, then perhaps just stick with the P Zeros until time to change, but do NOT replace with the same
Straight off I noticed the Michelins are ALOT quieter on the road & grip levels on the road & track are another level.
Will post Pictures once I detail the car over this weekend.
jm doc said:
I went from P-Zero's to Michelin's in my F90 and it was a big mistake, TC light was never off after I changed. Couldn't believe the difference.
MPS4S or MPSS?If MPS4S, were they the BMW OEM with the * as these have a very different compound to regular MPS4S. The BMW variant has virtually the same compound as the Cup 2's (nice & soft when warm), but with the wet weather performance of the regular MPS4S, so absolutely the best of both worlds.
w8pmc said:
Didn't realise they had an 'option' wheel as defo didn't see one on the spec sheet.
Will be easier to clean than mine, that's for sure
Does look stunning that blue & had i spec'd a car rather than buying a built one, would have been my go-to colour.
Yep it's an Option I had them before so liked to keep them, very easy to clean, I coated them with Ceramic Sunday.Will be easier to clean than mine, that's for sure
Does look stunning that blue & had i spec'd a car rather than buying a built one, would have been my go-to colour.
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