Incredible building wins architecture prize - Charles?
Incredible building wins architecture prize - Charles?
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saaby93

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32,038 posts

201 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Where's Prince Charles to say what he thinks about this new building in Kingston ( is that on Thames?)

You can see from the juxtaposition in the video, just how well it fits in with its surroundings




Is it finished
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5890...

9.3

1,201 posts

215 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Utterly soulless and brutalist IMO.
But there will be others who laud it, each to their own.

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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There is more to a building than how it looks, looks are completely subjective.

This building won mostly because of how it functions and how the space works

Desiderata

2,738 posts

77 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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There were actually some decent buildings/structures on the shortlist this year. I suppose they had to pick this one to show off their intellectual superiority to those of us who didn't get it.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

59 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Nice and I love how concrete weathers hurl

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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It looks like a 60s/70s school building that’s had a nice wee refurbishment lol

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

131 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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MonkeyMatt said:
There is more to a building than how it looks, looks are completely subjective.

This building won mostly because of how it functions and how the space works
That, architecture prizes aren't just aesthetic considerations.

Saying that, as a fan of brutalism and modernism, I like it.

Halmyre

12,299 posts

162 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Bit of cladding and it'll look fine....I'll get my coat...

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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ZedLeg said:
MonkeyMatt said:
There is more to a building than how it looks, looks are completely subjective.

This building won mostly because of how it functions and how the space works
That, architecture prizes aren't just aesthetic considerations.

Saying that, as a fan of brutalism and modernism, I like it.
I personally don't like the external aesthetic, but I do like how the internal space works and a lot of the details, its very well thought out. I have no issue with it winning

Murph7355

40,883 posts

279 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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I quite like it. And buildings don't have to look like every other building around them to fit it.

I do suspect, however, that once it's been used by students for 10yrs, and nature takes its toll, that it risks looking st later in its life and will be ripped down.

I'm always a bit suspicious of self-congratulatory prizes too, having worked on a few initiatives and seeing how the submissions processes work. Not dissimilar to the Oscars.

mac96

5,740 posts

166 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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It looks better from the street than the pictures show, so if it is as good functionally as that suggests then I can see why it won, although I think such competitions are a bit pointless.

But then, I love the South Bank Centre.

JagLover

46,087 posts

258 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Going for the multi-storey carpark aesthetic and seems to have acres of wasted space.

Shar2

2,261 posts

236 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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As someone who works at Kingston Uni, the prize givers obviously see something the rest of us still don't get. To me, it's a complete waste of space. It was desgined for a vice chancellor who's only consideration was for dance and art, so, apart from the huge library the rest of the building is for the performing arts, while civil engineering, on the same campus, is completely ignored and underfunded.

konark

1,221 posts

142 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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Looks like a building at my old uni that they demolished a few years ago.

If that's the best , i wouldn't want to see the worst.

dontlookdown

2,386 posts

116 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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It seems to have won because of what it's like inside, largely.

IMO that is a good thing, because buildings are primarily for being in, not looking at. They are - or should be - designed for the user not the observer.

Not to say aesthetics should.not play a part but it should be subservient to function. Far too many landmark buildings are utterly conventional and unimaginative inside An office in the Shard is exactly the same as an office anywhere else apart from the view.

saaby93

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32,038 posts

201 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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konark said:
Looks like a building at my old uni that they demolished a few years ago.

If that's the best , i wouldn't want to see the worst.
An example after it's aged and come to end of life?



ClaphamGT3

12,038 posts

266 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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Shar2 said:
As someone who works at Kingston Uni, the prize givers obviously see something the rest of us still don't get. To me, it's a complete waste of space. It was desgined for a vice chancellor who's only consideration was for dance and art, so, apart from the huge library the rest of the building is for the performing arts, while civil engineering, on the same campus, is completely ignored and underfunded.
I'm not sure how you manage the logic leap from whether the building is a worthy winner of the Stirling Prize (I happen to think that it is but it is a subjective matter open to debate) to the funding priorities of the university

durbster

11,805 posts

245 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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Going from the photos on the BBC site it doesn't look very accessible.

JMGS4

8,889 posts

293 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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How can anyone think this building is worthy of any prize???
Looks more like abandoned buildings in Pripyat/Chernobyl than anything useful... a blot on the landscape!

see this report and it's first photo
https://abcnews.go.com/International/virtual-tour-...

saaby93

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32,038 posts

201 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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JMGS4 said:
How can anyone think this building is worthy of any prize???
Looks more like abandoned buildings in Pripyat/Chenobyl than anything useful... a blot on the landscape!

see this report and it's first photo
https://abcnews.go.com/International/virtual-tour-...
It may have won architecture prize at the time?