Clipped Mirrors - other driver drove off
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To cut along story short, i clipped mirrors with another car (he was over white line as he was passing parked cars)
Anyway, he drove off - but after driving around, i saw the chap so stopped and asked him why he drove off and that we should exchange insurance details.
He refused saying that it was just a scratch and would buff out. Getting nowhere after a heated conversation with him i drove off, polished up my mirror and after a nights sleep decided to just let it go and chalk it up to one of life's experiences.
Three weeks later i receive a letter from the Police collision unit stating that i drove off from the scene of a collision - clearly untrue as he drove off not me) asking for my details - was i driving the car etc
What happens now?
Anyway, he drove off - but after driving around, i saw the chap so stopped and asked him why he drove off and that we should exchange insurance details.
He refused saying that it was just a scratch and would buff out. Getting nowhere after a heated conversation with him i drove off, polished up my mirror and after a nights sleep decided to just let it go and chalk it up to one of life's experiences.
Three weeks later i receive a letter from the Police collision unit stating that i drove off from the scene of a collision - clearly untrue as he drove off not me) asking for my details - was i driving the car etc
What happens now?
Who was at fault for the collision? If he was already passing the cars when you turned up then you need to have allowed him to complete the move. Likewise, if he saw you before he pulled out, then he should have given way.
Not saying you did anything wrong but I find drivers are more likely to play chicken in these situations in recent times. Someone hit my mirror earlier this week and drove off; wasn't me in your story as no conversation took place
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The only thing you can do now is dispute the story that you drove off. You did all you could do at the time.
Not saying you did anything wrong but I find drivers are more likely to play chicken in these situations in recent times. Someone hit my mirror earlier this week and drove off; wasn't me in your story as no conversation took place
.The only thing you can do now is dispute the story that you drove off. You did all you could do at the time.
StuTheGrouch said:
Who was at fault for the collision? If he was already passing the cars when you turned up then you need to have allowed him to complete the move. Likewise, if he saw you before he pulled out, then he should have given way.
Not saying you did anything wrong but I find drivers are more likely to play chicken in these situations in recent times. Someone hit my mirror earlier this week and drove off; can't have been me in your story as no conversation took place.
The only thing you can do now is dispute the story that you drove off. You did all you could do at the time.
He was over the white line and after i tracked him down - he disputed it was his fault. From an insurance perspective, it would probably be deemed as knock for knock 50/50 but the issue is - he drove off and made no attempt to stop and exchange details.Not saying you did anything wrong but I find drivers are more likely to play chicken in these situations in recent times. Someone hit my mirror earlier this week and drove off; can't have been me in your story as no conversation took place
.The only thing you can do now is dispute the story that you drove off. You did all you could do at the time.
and then i receive a letter from the Police. Naturally, i've written a long statement to them describing exactly what happened and that he just drove off. Any CCTV footage from the road would totally corroborate the events. He has obviously reported it suggesting that i drove off but that's certainly not the case - hence having to reverse up the road to challenge him on it.
EW109 said:
I can confidently predict that this will end up with "no further action" from the police. No real damage has been done and there could be no conceivable public interest in expending scarce public resources in matters further.
Comforting to know as i could well do without the hassle. After it happened, i polished the mirror cap up - job done so thought it was better to let sleeping dogs lay and all that. It still irritates the crap out of me that he was the person to drive off and when i did luckily manage to talk to him, he refused to give me his details. I then get a letter from the Police for failing to stop!! My concern is that i did stop whilst he made no effort to stop but i didn't bother reporting it as it was a tiny mark that polished out ok.Edited by Candellara on Friday 15th October 19:06
Candellara said:
Comforting to know as i could well do without the hassle. After it happened, i polished the mirror cap up - job done so thought it was better to let sleeping dogs lay and all that. It still irritates the crap out of me that he was the person to drive off and when i did luckily manage to talk to him, he refused to give me his details. I then get a letter from the Police for failing to stop!! My concern is that i did stop whilst he made no effort to stop but i didn't bother reporting it as it was a tiny mark that polished out ok.
It seems a strange course of action to stick your head back above the parapet for no good reason if he was the one who committed the offence of not exchanging details. I can only think he's discovered more damage that he didn't realise at the time and now want's to go through insurance but doesn't have the other drivers name, so saying he drove off makes it all a bit more above board. Maybe he needs a complete new mirror assembly and they can be very expensiveEdited by Candellara on Friday 15th October 19:06
StuTheGrouch said:
If he was already passing the cars when you turned up then you need to have allowed him to complete the move.
Which law says that? Genuinely would like to know as it's such a nightmare passing lines of parked cars in our village and oncoming cars frequently take you on.Sheepshanks said:
StuTheGrouch said:
If he was already passing the cars when you turned up then you need to have allowed him to complete the move.
Which law says that? Genuinely would like to know as it's such a nightmare passing lines of parked cars in our village and oncoming cars frequently take you on.Can I ask when this occurred and if the letter you received was a 172 notice asking you to name the driver, if it was have you completed it and returned it with your accompanying letter, as you committ a seperate offence of failing to furnish details within 28 days the advice you have been given is right in relation to the FTS as I said not complying with the form might/could get you into trouble.
Happened to me a couple of years ago. White van man who I'd noticed a few times on my way to collect my daughter from nursery in a small village. I'd noticed him as he'd cut it fine before in the narrow roads.
A few days later I spotted him again (as I knew I would!) and managed to have a word. Unfortunately my 3yr old daughter was in the car so had to be rather more polite than I wanted to. Nothing to be done really so I just chalked it up to experience (along with the repair bill).
A few days later I spotted him again (as I knew I would!) and managed to have a word. Unfortunately my 3yr old daughter was in the car so had to be rather more polite than I wanted to. Nothing to be done really so I just chalked it up to experience (along with the repair bill).
number2 said:
The police thing is procedural to get your details. It won't go further.
He'll be making an insurance claim. Be prepared for that to go 50/50 and for your premiums to rise next year.
I've had similar onece before. People can be... odd.
I don't think so. His car was a real old wreck of a thing. The road in question had parked cars on one side of the road (which is the norm along it) and he had manoeuvred around a traffic bollard so was on my side of the road. Very slow speeds - 15mph maybe. All oncoming traffic traverses the parked cars and two lanes squeeze down the middle therefore the road is tight.He'll be making an insurance claim. Be prepared for that to go 50/50 and for your premiums to rise next year.
I've had similar onece before. People can be... odd.
He drove off and when i did catch up with him, he refused any blame and also refused to provide any details for insurance. My parting comment was that he gave me no option but to report him. I'm guessing he then thought better of it and reported it, whilst i let it go after my mirror polished out.
Edited by Candellara on Saturday 16th October 08:13
Candellara said:
I don't think so. His car was a real old wreck of a thing. The road in question had parked cars on one side of the road (which is the norm along it) and he had manoeuvred around a traffic bollard so was on my side of the road. Very slow speeds - 15mph maybe.
He drove off and when i did catch up with him, he refused any blame and also refused to provide any details for insurance. My parting comment was that he gave me no option but to report him. I'm guessing he then thought better of it and reported it, whilst i let it go after my mirror polished out.
Perhaps.He drove off and when i did catch up with him, he refused any blame and also refused to provide any details for insurance. My parting comment was that he gave me no option but to report him. I'm guessing he then thought better of it and reported it, whilst i let it go after my mirror polished out.
The third party vehicle in my incident was an absolute snotter, and the damage caused in the low speed incident was indiscernible. We also agreed to not bother claiming. at the scene.
The claim he made was for 1000s including medical. Absolute fraud.
What people say and what they then do are different. A lot of people are complete areseholes.
Stefluc said:
Can I ask when this occurred and if the letter you received was a 172 notice asking you to name the driver, if it was have you completed it and returned it with your accompanying letter, as you committ a seperate offence of failing to furnish details within 28 days the advice you have been given is right in relation to the FTS as I said not complying with the form might/could get you into trouble.
Yes, notice to name the driver which i've completed, sent back with a covering letter explaining what happened and photos of the scratch on my mirror / the road where it happened.
t himself. I saw £900 for a genuine 3 series mirror!My prediction is the op's insurance will now pick up 50% of a claim around £500-£1500.
I can see where the op is coming from, but in your decision making, you've relied on the other person not being a tit.
When I had a scrape with a van that didn't stop, I gave details to the police within 24 hrs, but making it clear I didn't want to take further action.
I didn't tell insurers as I didn't (and still don't) anticipate a claim.
Never heard anything of it.
I can see where the op is coming from, but in your decision making, you've relied on the other person not being a tit.
When I had a scrape with a van that didn't stop, I gave details to the police within 24 hrs, but making it clear I didn't want to take further action.
I didn't tell insurers as I didn't (and still don't) anticipate a claim.
Never heard anything of it.
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