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fourstardan

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173 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Super Sonic

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83 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Would you consider a policeman having to call a wpc to search a female suspect 'sexual discrimination'?

fourstardan

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173 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Super Sonic said:
Would you consider a policeman having to call a wpc to search a female suspect 'sexual discrimination'?
This isn't about doing the job of the police though its to reassure someone they are genuine.

Who says a rather mentally sick copper isn't going to decide to kidnap me on his own (a man)?

Super Sonic

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83 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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If a mentally sick copper was going to kidnap someone, m/f, do you you think he'd bother with the video call? Or any other rules?

Super Sonic

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Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Also the police do sometimes need to prove there is to do their job, hence uniforms w no. on shoulder, warrant card etc.

Hol

9,316 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Super Sonic said:
If a mentally sick copper was going to kidnap someone, m/f, do you you think he'd bother with the video call? Or any other rules?
No.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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fourstardan said:
Why don't you try and come up with a better solution? I'm sure Cressida Dick will be all ears.

MissChief

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197 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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I find this very strange. All that will happen is 'Yes, I can confirm this is a serving police officer.' That's it. The murderer was a serving police officer. The only thing this will do is potentially put the 'arresting officer' on the spot for identification. And, of course, we all know how the Police close ranks whenever any one of them has done something wrong, right?

Gareth79

9,020 posts

275 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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MissChief said:
I find this very strange. All that will happen is 'Yes, I can confirm this is a serving police officer.' That's it. The murderer was a serving police officer. The only thing this will do is potentially put the 'arresting officer' on the spot for identification. And, of course, we all know how the Police close ranks whenever any one of them has done something wrong, right?
If a police officer was going to do something inappropriate with a woman, do you think he'd place a video call with his control room beforehand? Couzens took steps to cover his traces, so it seems unlikely he would have done that. The control room would have asked what was going on (his grounds for arrest), and likely called uniformed officers to assist, or at least asked of his plans to bring them to a station.

In theory it means that going forward, somebody in Sarah Everard's situation would know that if a video call was refused they could feel confident in calling for help from passers by, and we know there were plenty of people around.

Obviously though it would just make it slightly harder, eg. he would do it in a secluded area, or simply not pretend to be a police officer since that was just a took he had to make his crime easier.

Derek Smith

49,726 posts

277 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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It's something to reassure the public, or at the least lone women. Seems OK to me.

My force advertised that we would treat lone females in a car broken down as an attendence. Seemed reasonable to me. My directions to my staff was to treat everyone who was worried as a lone female. I once had a controller put in as heading, Two lone females. We knew what he meant.

One of the functions of the police is to reassure the public. Got no problem with that.

As pointed out, there's a way around such methods, but there's no point in not making it more difficult. A burglar will break into your house if they really want to, but that's no reason to leave your front door open.

BertBert

21,247 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Seems to be absolute madness to me. We have to reassure lone females that the policeman is not a mudering nutter? How is that going to happen? FFS

Super Sonic

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83 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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If he was a murdering nutter he wouldn't phone the station, therefore if he videocalls the station he's probably straight.

BertBert

21,247 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Super Sonic said:
If he was a murdering nutter he wouldn't phone the station, therefore if he videocalls the station he's probably straight.
Seriously?

Mojooo

13,291 posts

209 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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In answer to your question OP, yes it is sexual discrimination.

Super Sonic

14,223 posts

83 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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BertBert said:
Super Sonic said:
If he was a murdering nutter he wouldn't phone the station, therefore if he videocalls the station he's probably straight.
Seriously?
Is that a Serious question?