My daughters Teacher
My daughters Teacher
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Original Poster:

4,214 posts

100 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Posting on here as I’m hoping cooler heads will prevail.

One of my daughters Teachers, who she has lessons with several times a week, has, according to my daughter, been teaching the class some quite unorthodox views.

In the last couple of weeks we’ve had:
1; You only have free speech providing it isn’t hurting anyone’s feelings
2; Maths is racist. 1+1 = 3
3; Great Britain carried out the Holocaust

My daughter, (aged 11), pulled him up on points 2 & 3, only to be ridiculed in front of the whole class.

My natural inclination is to get myself worked up and to go and have a ‘word’ with this Teacher as he gets into his car one evening, but as tempting as that is, it’s not likely to end well for me in the long term.

Complaining to the school is likely to be a waste of time, as they’ll just back this guy to the hilt no matter what.

I just wondered if any of you chaps had any suggestions that are likely to yield positive results?

And no, this isn’t a wind-up or an attention seeking thread.

Thanks in advance.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,882 posts

209 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Isn't it possible your daughter might have misunderstood what he said? Maths is racist...really?

motco

17,607 posts

275 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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In my experience verbal complaints to the head teacher are futile. A written complaint, carefully worded, is on the record and will be likely to have much more effect.

meb90

453 posts

122 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Complain to the school governors?

One of Mrs Meb's colleagues got suspended recently for mentioning her anti-vax views whilst in class. Complaint from a parent went into the school (can't remember if to head teacher or governors).

Is the school part of a trust?

Al Gorithum

5,248 posts

237 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Speaking to the Head is a waste of time. Been there - done that many times. I suspect it could because of the Union's influence but could be wrong.

I'd be inclined to contact the local newspaper and see if it's story.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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What's number 2 all about?

Scrump

23,933 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Letter to the school governors is the way I would handle this if I was inclined to take it further.

Kawasicki

14,363 posts

264 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Isn't it possible your daughter might have misunderstood what he said? Maths is racist...really?
I know it’s hard to fathom. I struggle too.

There are people out there that think that logic and precise calculation are white cultural phenomena.

Google “maths is racist“ and prepare to be amazed.

craigjm

21,432 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
What's number 2 all about?
I was thinking that

kambites

71,459 posts

250 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Kawasicki said:
There are people out there that think that logic and precise calculation are white cultural phenomena.
Surely the idea that logic and precise calculation are a white cultural phenomenon is, in itself, racist?

As for the others:

1) I wouldn't necessarily call that controversial. Like it or not, there is no right to free speech in UK law and "hate speech" is explicitly a crime.
3) Err, yeah that's just odd.

But yeah, your first point of call would be the school governors (in writing with specific dates and if possible direct quotes). If that fails, the LEA?

Edited by kambites on Friday 22 October 16:57

Sheepshanks

40,970 posts

148 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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craigjm said:
ChocolateFrog said:
What's number 2 all about?
I was thinking that
Don't Google it - your head might explode.

WRumbled

392 posts

256 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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craigjm said:
ChocolateFrog said:
What's number 2 all about?
I was thinking that
Likewise. It just doesn't add up.

InformationSuperHighway

7,526 posts

213 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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"Have a quiet word in the car park" hehe PH at it's finest.

I struggle to believe this is real. No other parents complaining that the teacher thinks GB was responsible for the Holocaust?

Come off it.

boyse7en

8,171 posts

194 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Explain to your daughter that people have different viewpoints and take the opportunity to suggest she researches some of the statements/subjects to see what her views are? You can also explain that it is OK to change your standpoint on a subject in light of new facts or evidence.


mikey_b

2,681 posts

74 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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I had cause to grumble to my kids' primary school after their performance during the first lockdown was woeful, especially compared to other primary schools in the neighbourhood. Literally just an email with a few worksheets for English and maths sent on a Monday each week - it took them weeks to arrange even a single Zoom meeting, whilst other nearby schools were running something approaching a full timetable.

When it became apparent that lockdown 2 was coming, I wrote a firm letter expressing my disappointment, and sent it to both the headteacher and the board of governors. That got a formal response from both, and their effort was substantially better during the second lockdown. I also sent it to the PTA, not that it's their role at all to deal with these things, but it's quite a wide audience of other 'normal parents' and got thanked by several of them in a 'thank God somebody said it' manner.

So, try and gather evidence (are you friends with parents of other kids in her class, so can get the details from more than one source?) and raise it with the governors as well as the headteacher.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Saw the thread title and thought this was going to be another 'should I ask her out?' thread.

Is disappoint.

simoid

19,774 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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My first point of call would be a quick word or email with the teacher in question, perhaps along the lines of “has my wee Janey being saying anything strange in class? She said yesterday UK committed the Holocaust and maths is racist…”

Then you can get a handle on whether or not to whack the teacher/shop him to the Daily Mail with a sad face.

AJB88

15,747 posts

200 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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V8mate said:
Saw the thread title and thought this was going to be another 'should I ask her out?' thread.

Is disappoint.
same here.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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1)Find out exactly what the teacher said to your daughter before proceeding, tell your daughter she’s not in trouble but you want to know the exact comments.

2) If you’re still not happy ask the school about it, in a calm non accusing way via Email to the teacher. and perhaps copy in the head.


anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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AJB88 said:
V8mate said:
Saw the thread title and thought this was going to be another 'should I ask her out?' thread.

Is disappoint.
same here.
And me.