New Vantage or this.
New Vantage or this.
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cayman-black

Original Poster:

13,265 posts

245 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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After reading another thread on here about these cars i must admit they do seem very special with some great attention to detail and no doubt beautifully made. what do you think?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107064...

Jon39

14,921 posts

172 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Branding image is possibly ridiculous, but is still relevant to motorists.

"Shall we take the (Toyota) Lexus tonight darling?"
"No, just call a Uber."

"Shall we take the Aston tonight darling?"
"Oh yes please."
"The new Vantage, or our Vanquish?"


wink

andy_ran

924 posts

222 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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I love them. But as above sadly stands true

We shouldnt really care what others think of us, or how they see us however

Phil74891

1,086 posts

162 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Alan Partridge has one of those.

cayman-black

Original Poster:

13,265 posts

245 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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I agree there is possibly nothing like saying shall we take the Aston, but its still quite an impressive car with no brand history unless it similar to the LFA of course.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Hell of an echo in here.

I love the Lexus but it has to be the Aston.

Quickmoose

5,331 posts

152 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Whilst brand history and perception are clearly an issue...
Lexus race the LC and its made in the same factory as the LFA was, and utilises carbon fibre tech learnt in F1.
The depth of engineering and quality, for me far outweighs the Aston.

Notwithstanding the previous Vantage is classically and subjectively the prettiest car [i]ever[/]
Whilst the new one has the "dressed up Merc" issue to deal with...
agree or disagree, its as much as an obvious trope as the Lexus-uber thing...

Minglar

1,928 posts

152 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Mrs Minglar has had an RX300 for several years which is just about to clock up 100,000 miles. Lexus may have a somewhat staid and boring image, à la Alan Partridge, but I can categorically say it’s been the best car we have ever owned. There is a new NX about to be launched very soon and I think it’s rather tempting to get another one. The build quality is superb, they very rarely go wrong, and the customer service experience is fantastic. I’ve always had a soft spot for the LC, and it’s a pretty rare sight in the U.K. as far as I am aware. Would I take one over a new Vantage? If it was a green F1, definitely not, but if it was the original launch version, I think perhaps I would. I’m not a frequent visitor to the Lexus Owners Club forum, but I would be happy to bet a few bob that there aren’t too many derogatory posts on there, particularly when compared to some of the vitriol I’ve read on here over the last four years concerning the new Vantage.

Best Regards

Minglar

BiggaJ

1,264 posts

68 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Minglar said:
Mrs Minglar has had an RX300 for several years which is just about to clock up 100,000 miles. Lexus may have a somewhat staid and boring image, à la Alan Partridge, but I can categorically say it’s been the best car we have ever owned. There is a new NX about to be launched very soon and I think it’s rather tempting to get another one. The build quality is superb, they very rarely go wrong, and the customer service experience is fantastic. I’ve always had a soft spot for the LC, and it’s a pretty rare sight in the U.K. as far as I am aware. Would I take one over a new Vantage? If it was a green F1, definitely not, but if it was the original launch version, I think perhaps I would. I’m not a frequent visitor to the Lexus Owners Club forum, but I would be happy to bet a few bob that there aren’t too many derogatory posts on there, particularly when compared to some of the vitriol I’ve read on here over the last four years concerning the new Vantage.

Best Regards

Minglar
Likewise, A former Lexus owner that really bought into the brand, dealer network, service, quality etc. I only moved away (and now regretting it) because I wanted a car with lower emissions for company car tax reasons (read penny pinching Yorkshireman wink). I will return to the brand in the future. Having had all manner of German fodder in the past and the unreliability of Jaguar products none of them can hold a candle to Lexus for the overall ownership experience, in this I not only include the drivability (if it was all about this then it would not be putting Lexus at the top of the list) but all the aforementioned points and more. I managed to cover 110k miles in three years, tyres needed changing once, brake pads once, nothing fell off, nothing went wrong, not even a blown fuse, nothing rattled despite the rear of the car needing a rebuild after an motorway shunt only 3 months into ownership.

The LC500 is a stunning car and if you go with the V8 a stunning naturally aspirated engine, not overly powerful but gorgeous nonetheless.

I have no issue with other peoples thoughts positive or not on Lexus (Toyota) or Aston martin (Mercedes) ... could carry this on to Bugatti (VW) and others yada yada ... if people cant see past that .....

M1AGM

5,186 posts

61 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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garyhun said:
Hell of an echo in here.

I love the Lexus but it has to be the Aston.
+1

Champs

165 posts

133 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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I would not even mention them in the same breath Sir ! ................ Sorry.
Vantage all the way, any day, all day !

Simpo Two

92,709 posts

294 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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No way Jose. I didn't spend the last 25 years aspiring to a ruddy Lexus!

ruhall

578 posts

175 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Some interesting reasons for opting for the Vantage; the Lexus is a superbly engineered car with top-notch quality.

I wonder if this thread will go the way of the long-running Rolex one in the watches forum.

hueyhoolihan

84 posts

83 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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sometimes the point is nothing BUT brand appeal...

https://youtu.be/NmannAYiwh0

LTP

3,098 posts

141 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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ruhall said:
Some interesting reasons for opting for the Vantage; the Lexus is a superbly engineered car with top-notch quality.

I wonder if this thread will go the way of the long-running Rolex one in the watches forum.
There's a watches forum?

sticks090460

1,125 posts

187 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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I don’t see anyone cross-shopping one of these against a Vantage, other than the OP. The Vantage is more powerful and much quicker, the Lexus no doubt a technical tour de force, quite a bit cheaper new, possibly more reliable. I’m biased, obviously, but I don’t think I’d ever swap my car for one of these. If anything, with the rear seats, it’s more of a cut-price DB11.

morty1961

379 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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The Lexus is probably a quality car but its not really a looker is it ? I'm also not over keen on the current Vantage looks but at least it looks ok from the side on perspective

blueg33

46,409 posts

253 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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This thread inspired me to look at the prices on the new Vantage, it did not inspire me to do anything other than ignore the Lexus

Sometimes form is as important as function.

macdeb

8,758 posts

284 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Jon39 said:

Branding image is possibly ridiculous, but is still relevant to motorists.

"Shall we take the (Toyota) Lexus tonight darling?"
"No, just call a Uber."

"Shall we take the Aston tonight darling?"
"Oh yes please."
"The new Vantage, or our Vanquish?"


wink
^^^^ This, beat me to it. Pub conversation;
Hello, what do you drive?
Oh, I have a Lexus.
Oh yes, who makes that?
Err, Toyota.
Ahh, nice, Toyota's make nice cars.

OR.

Hello, what do you drive.
Oh, I drive an Aston Martin.
end of conversation.


Edited by macdeb on Wednesday 27th October 15:15

BiggaJ

1,264 posts

68 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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macdeb said:
Jon39 said:

Branding image is possibly ridiculous, but is still relevant to motorists.

"Shall we take the (Toyota) Lexus tonight darling?"
"No, just call a Uber."

"Shall we take the Aston tonight darling?"
"Oh yes please."
"The new Vantage, or our Vanquish?"


wink
^^^^ This, beat me to it. Pub conversation;
Hello, what do you drive?
Oh, I have a Lexus.
Oh yes, who makes that?
Err, Toyota.
Ahh, nice, Toyota's make nice cars.

OR.

Hello, what do you drive.
Oh, I drive an Aston Martin.
end of conversation.


Edited by macdeb on Wednesday 27th October 15:15
I would agree to a point. The name Aston Martin has a cache that not many other brands can match, it conjures with the mind however, the above rule can be applied to most luxury brands these days.

Shall we take the Bugatti .... er, you mean the VW or perhaps the Skoda!!

What makes Lexus fairly unique in this field is badge snobbery doesn't exist in the same way it does for MB, BMW, Audi etc. which I find quite refreshing.

I'm not saying for a moment that I would swap my AM for a Lexus LC500 but I am saying if I had room I would have both.