Fleet/Flotilla?
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Doofus

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34,332 posts

202 months

Sunday 31st October 2021
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I wondered what the difference was, so I Googled it.

I got this:

In context|nautical|lang=en terms the difference between flotilla and fleet is that flotilla is (nautical) a small fleet of warships (usually of the same class), or a fleet of small ships while fleet is (nautical) to move up a rope, so as to haul to more advantage; especially to draw apart the blocks of a tackle.

So a flotilla is a fleet, but fleet is to climb up a rope?

I am confuse.

Cold

16,678 posts

119 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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Nah, Fleet is a town to the west of Farnborough. biggrin

underwhelmist

2,049 posts

163 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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Flotillas are those little specks you see in your eye sometimes, and when you try to look at them they move.

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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Looks straight forward to me, even on a Monday morning before breakfast:

fleet
1. Naval fleet: The highest operational echelon of command of ships commanded by a single person in a navy, and typically the largest type of naval formation commanded by a single person. In modern times, usually (but not necessarily) a permanent formation.
2. During the Age of Sail, a Royal Navy term for any naval command larger than a squadron in size, or commanded by a rear admiral and composed of five ships-of-the-line and any number of smaller vessels.
3. Merchant fleet, a collective term for the merchant marine (known in the United Kingdom and Commonwealth countries the merchant navy) of a particular country.
4. Fishing fleet: A term for an aggregate of commercial fishing vessels, commonly used either to describe all fishing vessels belonging to a single country, operating in a single region, operating out of a particular port, or engaged in particular type of fishing (e.g., the tuna fishing fleet). The term does not imply that the vessels operate as part of a single organization.
5. Informally, any grouping (based on physical proximity or sharing of a common organizational subordination) of naval or civilian vessels.
6. Of a person, to move from one location to another aboard a vessel, or to change positions within a naval organization.
7. To move up a rope — especially when drawing the blocks of a tackle part — to allow a greater advantage in hauling.
8. To cause a rope or chain to slip down the barrel of a capstan or windlass.
9. A former term for the process aboard a vessel of moving deadeyes when the shrouds become too long.
10. A location where barges are secured.



flotilla
1. In naval usage, a group of warships under a single commander that is smaller than a fleet but otherwise not formally defined. A flotilla often is larger than a squadron, and usually is made up of smaller vessels than those assigned to a squadron, but some flotillas are smaller than squadrons and some include larger vessels. In some navies, the term flotilla is reserved for naval formations that operate on inland bodies of water, while the terms fleet and squadron denote naval formations that operate at sea. A flotilla may be a permanent or temporary formation. In modern times, a flotilla sometimes is an administrative naval unit responsible for maintaining and supporting vessels but not for commanding their operations at sea.
2. Informally, a group of naval or civilian vessels operating together or in close proximity to one another.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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underwhelmist said:
Flotillas are those little specks you see in your eye sometimes, and when you try to look at them they move.
A flotilla is a large, buoyant monkey.

Roofless Toothless

7,565 posts

161 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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I think you are using the wrong dictionary.

Evanivitch

26,344 posts

151 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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Consider Fleet and Fleet to be a bit like Division in Army terms.

Division - definition - A division is a large military unit or formation, usually consisting of between 6,000 and 25,000 soldiers. In most armies, a division is composed of several regiments or brigades; in turn, several divisions typically make up a corps.

Bit it can also mean:

Division - definition (2) - Affliction most commonly seen in British Monarchists that have the firmly held belief they can see the late Princess Diana haunting Prince Charles.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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Comparing one rather vague definition with another rather vague definition is not that helpful.

Different navies have slightly different definitions of what they consider to be a "fleet". During World War 2, the entire section of the US Navy dedicated to Atlantic operations was described as the Atlantic Fleet, with an equivalent in the Pacific.

The Royal Navy operation in the Mediterranean was referred to as Task Force H rather than the Mediterranean Fleet.