TVR - Too Girlie?
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Hut49

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Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Peter Stevens, designer of the MG X80 to be launched at the Motor Show next week is quoted in Autocar today as saying that the model is aimed "..at those who think a TVR is too girlie".

I wasn't aware that I was driving a girlie car (whatever that means) - anyone here feel that they are?

What are the attributes of a girlie car? Curvaceous, of course. Beautiful, undoubtedly. Fickle and expensive to run, OK. Likes to be regularly serviced and polished.....I think I'd better stop there, he's right!

Hutch



douglasr

1,092 posts

294 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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I dont think he meant it that way...its actually a complement. You can now safely remove the chip from your shoulder

zippy500

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291 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Which way did he mean it then.

polar_ben

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281 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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I wouldn't be too worried - looks half Fiat Coupe, half new Astra to me...

zippy500

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291 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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If a TVR can be described as girlie, god knows what you describe as macho. Maybe a go kart with an Exocet missle srtapped to it perhaps.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

306 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Seeking controversy more like. Let him rant. Every time you pass an MG the owner must be thinking "must get a girlie car"

cirks

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305 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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I wouldn't be too worried - looks half Fiat Coupe, half new Astra to me...


and from that angle a lot like the Calibra!

squirrelz

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293 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Isn't that picture before the macho redesign?

On a different topic, did I pick up from 5th gear last night that Peter Stevens did the redesign of the Subaru Imprezza (the latest look not the bug-eyed look)?

Ali_D

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306 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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I liked the X80 as it was so I'm looking forward to seeing this macho re design. Not that I can afford one though!

VictorMeldrew

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299 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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God help us from those who can't understand irony.

aovcerb

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292 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Errrr this is the company that gave us that true muscle car the MGF with limp wrist hand signals noted in the drivers hand book. Seriously though he cannot be serious with the design of the car, touched of the Calibra come to mind when looking at the X80.
How can you seriously place a TVR against the X80, I dare to suggest that this is more Scooby competition.

Hut49

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Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Now I know what he means by girlie car


Hutch

>> Edited by Hut49 on Tuesday 15th October 10:14

>> Edited by Hut49 on Tuesday 15th October 10:14

Hut49

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Tuesday 15th October 2002
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How can you seriously place a TVR against the X80, I dare to suggest that this is more Scooby competition.

Agreed, but the real comparison is two WRX Sti Prodrive Scoobies, since the X80 is expected to be priced over £50,000

Hutch

VictorMeldrew

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299 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Hutch

Now those look like two mighty fine reasons to consider moving the battery box in a Chim - more leg room definately needed! Oo-er!

griff2be

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289 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Guys (and girls - as some of you chaps weem to be swinging your handbags around a bit here!)

The MGF and X80 are about as similar as chalk and cheese. One is a mass market, cheap roadster and good on them for going for a mid engined layout when it must have been very tempting just to copy the MX5. Whilst its not entirely to my taste, as a Pistonhead I'd rather see non-Pistonheads ('Numpties') driving MGFs than dull Euroboxes.

Anyway, on to the X80. Rear wheel drive coupe with a 4.6 litre V8 up front putting out 385bhp. Will see off quite a few TVRs - particularly those designed in the late 80's/early 90's (i.e. Griff and Chimaera). Given this set up I fail to see why anyone would think the X80 is aimed at the Subaru market. Particularly at £50k a pop. The closest car I can think of is the Cerbera. It will be very interesting to see if the X80 will go round corners.....

Anyway - my point is that talk of MG and limp wrists is 1) on dodgy ground factually and 2) is the sort of thing I'd expect to hear on the playground, not on Pistonheads.

I for one applaud ANY manufacturer who has the balls to bring out a big engined evil sports car (even if they did nick someone elses still-born design).

So well done MG - keep it up. And when are we going to see the V8 engined Rover 75 estate?

P.S. I still think the X80's styling leaves something to be desired, although it does look better in the recent pictures

Nevin

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283 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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He was trying to indicate just how exceptionally hardcore he thought his new car was, i.e that it even made a TVR look girlie. What's the problem with that?

He didn't compare it to a Porsche because they really are girly

Hut49

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Tuesday 15th October 2002
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VictorMeldrew said: Hutch

Now those look like two mighty fine reasons to consider moving the battery box in a Chim - more leg room definately needed! Oo-er!

I was rather envisioning the earth moving rather than the battery box on a chim! But each to their own!!

Hutch

P7ULG

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305 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Peter Stevens, designer of the MG X80 to be launched at the Motor Show next week is quoted in Autocar today as saying that the model is aimed "..at those who think a TVR is too girlie".

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That rich coming from a company that builds MGFs.

Mr Stevens must have some strange female acqaintances,


>> Edited by P7ULG on Tuesday 15th October 11:13

douglasr

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294 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Christ people, lose the chips. What I think Mr Stevens is trying to illustrate, is that in his opinion, the TVR is the most "macho" (for the want of a better word) car on the market and the X80 seeks to make it look girlie.

Its just an off the cuff, PR remark. Chill FFS.

Anyway, why slag Rover off...a lot of people on here rant on about owning a British car...Rover are British, so if you think that way, support them, dont slag them - I think they are doing a fine job with a limited R&D budget.

griff2be

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289 months

Tuesday 15th October 2002
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Well said Douglas m'boy!