Brecon Beacons Cave Rescue
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Well done to all involved and a hopefully good recovery for the injured man.
Nearly 250 people involved in a two and a half day rescue from Britain's deepest and third longest cave system. It sounds like a really complex operation coordinating cave rescue teams from across the UK.
It amused me when the BBC reporters said the injured man was to not able to get out by himself. Well with a broken back and broken leg amongst other injuries was that a such surprise? Footballers get stretchered off for nothing more than a bruised ego.
I'm looking forward to hearing more about this as the full story comes out. Hopefully some video will have been taken.
Nearly 250 people involved in a two and a half day rescue from Britain's deepest and third longest cave system. It sounds like a really complex operation coordinating cave rescue teams from across the UK.
It amused me when the BBC reporters said the injured man was to not able to get out by himself. Well with a broken back and broken leg amongst other injuries was that a such surprise? Footballers get stretchered off for nothing more than a bruised ego.
I'm looking forward to hearing more about this as the full story comes out. Hopefully some video will have been taken.
shih tzu faced said:
Takes all sorts I suppose but going down massive deep caves for fun just sounds like asking for trouble to me.
I had to do it as part of my military basic training. Not something I want to repeat!Squeezing through tiny spaces hundreds of feet underground is not a sensible hobby.
peterperkins said:
Great effort..
Hopefully he will be making a large donation to various groups and/or sponsoring a big party for all involved in his rescue.
Cavers, and caving clubs, fund virtually all of cave rescues costs. They get no government funding and, unlike the RNLI, don’t have large public support and funding.Hopefully he will be making a large donation to various groups and/or sponsoring a big party for all involved in his rescue.
I should have been there but changed my weekend plans last week. A great result from a fantastic community, let's hope the recovery is as good.
Some of the comments on message boards are very disappointing and short sighted in equal measure. We should all value the volunteers who give themselves to these teams so we can rely on them when we get into trouble outdoors.
Some of the comments on message boards are very disappointing and short sighted in equal measure. We should all value the volunteers who give themselves to these teams so we can rely on them when we get into trouble outdoors.
A description of aspects of the cave and this rescue from the Upper Wharfedale Fell Rescue Association on their Facebook page:
Brecon Beacons Cave Rescue
Brecon Beacons Cave Rescue
98elise said:
shih tzu faced said:
Takes all sorts I suppose but going down massive deep caves for fun just sounds like asking for trouble to me.
I had to do it as part of my military basic training. Not something I want to repeat!Squeezing through tiny spaces hundreds of feet underground is not a sensible hobby.
Einion Yrth said:
It's the loonies who are the first to explore a particularly tight squeeze that get me; horrible way to check out if you get it wrong.
Yep, respect for anyone who does this sort of thing, pushing our limits is what makes us human... but definitely not for me!Always remember reading the story of the guy in Utah who got stuck...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave
Zetec-S said:
Always remember reading the story of the guy in Utah who got stuck...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave
I sometimes get vertigo watching videos of Russians walking along stupidly high girders, and I got the same feeling just even thinking of clicking on that link...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave
Obviously there is no RNLI style operation for this sort of thing. It would just encourage more plonkers doing it. A lot of people do crazy
things because they expect to be rescued.
These fellow cavers deserve a medal for risking ther own lives.
Did anyone ever punch that guy in the face for taking his school pupils into the cave in asia?
At least one person died trying to rescue them.
things because they expect to be rescued.
These fellow cavers deserve a medal for risking ther own lives.
Did anyone ever punch that guy in the face for taking his school pupils into the cave in asia?
At least one person died trying to rescue them.
Zetec-S said:
Einion Yrth said:
It's the loonies who are the first to explore a particularly tight squeeze that get me; horrible way to check out if you get it wrong.
Yep, respect for anyone who does this sort of thing, pushing our limits is what makes us human... but definitely not for me!Always remember reading the story of the guy in Utah who got stuck...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave
"...and became stuck upside-down in an area measuring 10 by 18 inches (25 by 46cm), around 400 feet (120m) from the cave's entrance."
F'ck that.Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 9th November 11:39
Zetec-S said:
Yep, respect for anyone who does this sort of thing, pushing our limits is what makes us human... but definitely not for me!
Always remember reading the story of the guy in Utah who got stuck...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave
That is grim! Always remember reading the story of the guy in Utah who got stuck...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave
Gogoplata said:
Zetec-S said:
Yep, respect for anyone who does this sort of thing, pushing our limits is what makes us human... but definitely not for me!
Always remember reading the story of the guy in Utah who got stuck...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave
That is grim! Always remember reading the story of the guy in Utah who got stuck...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave
No thanks.
Our Scout group summer camps were usually to South Wales, with caving as one of the activities on offer. Being rather rotund, I had proper nightmares for months beforehand about the possibility of getting stuck. The only saving grace was that the troop leader was very slightly larger in diameter than me.
One particular place was a very small tunnel, about the width of my shoulders and diameter of my belly, joining two caverns, with no alternative route. Wriggling through the hole was exactly what my nightmares had been about, with rock on all sides and hundreds of feet of it above me. Once done, It didn't feel so bad, although knowing I had to do it again in the opposite direction on the return journey was rather concerning.
One cave system was entered through a padlocked steel door next to an old tree in the middle of a flat field. That one was a bit odd as it must have joined up with some old mine workings, complete with narrow gauge railway tracks still in place. Another one was entered by climbing up a bank of scree to a small hole part way up a cliff. To see caverns, pools and waterfalls, plus the occasional stalactite//stalagmite formations were what made all the slithering through mud and cold water worthwhile. I doubt writing our names on cave walls with the soot from our calcium carbide acetylene lamps would be welcomed these days. In fact it probably wasn't even then!
Given that the caving we did was probably the equivalent of nursery slopes when skiiing, it does make me have a great deal of respect for the rescuers who worked in far worse conditions than those we experienced.
One particular place was a very small tunnel, about the width of my shoulders and diameter of my belly, joining two caverns, with no alternative route. Wriggling through the hole was exactly what my nightmares had been about, with rock on all sides and hundreds of feet of it above me. Once done, It didn't feel so bad, although knowing I had to do it again in the opposite direction on the return journey was rather concerning.
One cave system was entered through a padlocked steel door next to an old tree in the middle of a flat field. That one was a bit odd as it must have joined up with some old mine workings, complete with narrow gauge railway tracks still in place. Another one was entered by climbing up a bank of scree to a small hole part way up a cliff. To see caverns, pools and waterfalls, plus the occasional stalactite//stalagmite formations were what made all the slithering through mud and cold water worthwhile. I doubt writing our names on cave walls with the soot from our calcium carbide acetylene lamps would be welcomed these days. In fact it probably wasn't even then!
Given that the caving we did was probably the equivalent of nursery slopes when skiiing, it does make me have a great deal of respect for the rescuers who worked in far worse conditions than those we experienced.
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