Rumour: Audi Buy McLaren group
Rumour: Audi Buy McLaren group
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andburg

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8,160 posts

185 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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reported by autocar.

mentioned in the mclaren thread but i feel this has wider implications..

The end for Red Bull VW?
Will merc have a clause they can exercise to protect itself as i cant see them wanting to supply Audi with engines 2022 onwards
If a new engine is needed where from and how much impact will this have on 2022 car design which you'd assume is almost finalised.

st just got interesting!

speedy_thrills

7,793 posts

259 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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I thought it was the Porsche brand of VAG that wanted to collaborate with RedBull? I suppose it's possible they could just use the Porsche engine but call it an Audi power unit.

The deal, as reported, would be wider than just the F1 team also giving Audi the automotive manufacturing and applied technologies group.

whytheory

757 posts

162 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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speedy_thrills said:
I thought it was the Porsche brand of VAG that wanted to collaborate with RedBull? I suppose it's possible they could just use the Porsche engine but call it an Audi power unit.

The deal, as reported, would be wider than just the F1 team also giving Audi the automotive manufacturing and applied technologies group.
Not McLaren Applied apparently, original article;

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/business-financ...

LM240

5,162 posts

234 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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Quite surprised at this news.

The fact they have reportedly also bought McLaren cars, I’d find it hard to believe they would dilute the ‘brand’. I think the car division still needs the credibility the F1 connection brings.

If they’d just bought the F1 team out then it would seem like a wholesale rebrand was on the cards. I can’t see McLaren disappearing and suddenly becoming Audi F1. McLaren-Audi perhaps, but what engine?

Will Mercedes be happy their engine is now accessible to the Audi group… Porsche rumoured to be developing an engine.

Though is it not ‘VW group’ who have technically bought it? I’ve lost track a little bit of who controls the brands and spending power.

Not sure how up to date this pic is;

Schermerhorn

4,350 posts

205 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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I wonder what Red Bull did to screw up the rumoured Porsche link that VAG just turned around and went straight to Mclaren who welcomed them with open arms?

Edited by Schermerhorn on Monday 15th November 13:19

Killer2005

20,233 posts

244 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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ch37

10,642 posts

237 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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Is an Autocar journalist the original source? If so that's a spectacular error.

andburg

Original Poster:

8,160 posts

185 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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well that killed this thread


until next week when its announced rofl

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

62 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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Had no idea that VW owned or part owned Scania and MAN!!

Pixelpeep 135

8,600 posts

158 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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i heard aldi want to buy audi just to prevent any confusion

LM240

5,162 posts

234 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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McLaren keen to kill this story.

Either total nonsense or not ready to be announced.

legless

1,885 posts

156 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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LM240 said:
Not sure how up to date this pic is;
It's reasonably up to date, other than the fact that Volkswagen now owns 100% of Scania, MAN and Navistar.

thegreenhell

19,914 posts

235 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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legless said:
LM240 said:
Not sure how up to date this pic is;
It's reasonably up to date, other than the fact that Volkswagen now owns 100% of Scania, MAN and Navistar.
Bugatti is no longer directly owned by VW. It is now jointly owned by Porsche (45%) and Rimac (55%), with Porsche also having a 24% share in Rimac.

Petrus1983

10,424 posts

178 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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thegreenhell said:
Bugatti is no longer directly owned by VW. It is now jointly owned by Porsche (45%) and Rimac (55%), with Porsche also having a 24% share in Rimac.
Can’t help but think tiny Rimac did well on that deal.

speedy_thrills

7,793 posts

259 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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I'm not sure if they still do but Porsche used to have an consultancy sideline.

robscot

2,506 posts

206 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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Autocar link headline "Audi buys McLaren Group to secure Formula 1 entry"

Click it and headline is now "McLaren Group denies being bought by Audi"


What a fook up

Pixelpeep 135

8,600 posts

158 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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robscot said:
Autocar link headline "Audi buys McLaren Group to secure Formula 1 entry"

Click it and headline is now "McLaren Group denies being bought by Audi"


What a fook up
Journo's dream that, right?

Start a rumour - run an 'excusive' article on it, loads of clicks, likes and shares.

Create such a stir that the company in question has to issue a public statement denying it.

Run an exclusive on the denial - loads of clicks, likes and shares.

So two giant stories out of literally nothing.



wolfracesonic

8,273 posts

143 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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robscot said:
Autocar link headline "Audi buys McLaren Group to secure Formula 1 entry"

Click it and headline is now "McLaren Group denies being bought by Audi"


What a fook up
‘WW II bomber found on moon!’
‘WW II bomber found on moon vanishes!’ laugh

vaud

55,355 posts

171 months

Tuesday 16th November 2021
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speedy_thrills said:
I'm not sure if they still do but Porsche used to have an consultancy sideline.
Yup

https://www.linkedin.com/company/porsche-consultin...

AlexIT

1,664 posts

154 months

Tuesday 16th November 2021
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wolfracesonic said:
robscot said:
Autocar link headline "Audi buys McLaren Group to secure Formula 1 entry"

Click it and headline is now "McLaren Group denies being bought by Audi"


What a fook up
‘WW II bomber found on moon!’
‘WW II bomber found on moon vanishes!’ laugh
laugh

or like:
Submarine spotted
Submarine sank