Intrusive Staring
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Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

5,075 posts

215 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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There are some adverts on the Overground, and probably other places, that say that so-called "intrusive staring" is sexual harassment.

Is this actually true? What is "intrusive staring"? Sounds like complete bks to me that totally trivializes genuine sexual harassment.


LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

75 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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I have often said that there will soon be rules about looking at people, this is ridiculous.

A look can mean something yes, but it is just a look, if you are doing something ridiculous or lairy fair enough, but simply looking at something or someone is not a crime and should never be.

OK this is specific, sitting on a tube staring at someone for 5 minutes is a but weird, but you can just move, if it carries on then you speak to someone surely.


anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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Maybe ask a woman about it?

Dingu

4,893 posts

59 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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Are you seeking a legal perspective?

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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Any woman, she doesn't have to be a lawyer.

Dingu

4,893 posts

59 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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I meant the OP sorry. Feels a strange one for SP&L is all.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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I guess they're wondering whether sexual harassment in law necessitates physical contact? And whether the law requires that a woman move at least once before reporting a non-contact sexual offence.

Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

5,075 posts

215 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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I'm wondering what counts as sexual harassment under the law, yes.

And I did ask a woman, my wife, who laughed at this even harder than me.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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I can't comprehend how anyone would not understand what 'intrusive staring of a sexual nature' is or why it might be a problem.

Dingu

4,893 posts

59 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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Well, 2 minutes googling suggests that it can be. Although it seems fairly clear that in order to fall foul of such a law you do have to be pretty weird and leery so a “look” wouldn’t suffice.

It seems pretty sensible that such behaviour would be unacceptable and there should be no requirement for someone to move away before the law was broken.

Unless you are in the habit of staring intently at various strangers body parts I wouldn’t get to worked up about it.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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My wife has said that continuing eye contact is harassment, but someone stood two feet behind her staring at her ass, she wouldn't know.

I don't think staring could be classed as sexual harassment, there are two many variables.

jules_s

5,256 posts

262 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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Odd that

I went to a restaurant earlier

We are in our 50's - main demographic was 20's - lots of staring at us

An odd situation arose - two males dining together alongside two females - the females started chatting the blokes up - I checked that out

It's called people watching FYI


Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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Exactly.

Dingu

4,893 posts

59 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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I think you both might be conflating people watching (legal) with starting at them intimately (not legal) without caring when seen etc and making people fearful.

I’m not sure why it’s difficult to grasp or controversial. This isn’t erosion of rights or freedoms or whatever.

Pica-Pica

16,566 posts

113 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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jules_s said:
Odd that

I went to a restaurant earlier

We are in our 50's - main demographic was 20's - lots of staring at us

An odd situation arose - two males dining together alongside two females - the females started chatting the blokes up - I checked that out

It's called people watching FYI
Yes, people watching - but person watching is quite different.

Decky_Q

2,084 posts

206 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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So what is staring intimately? And how can it be intimate if its across a train carriage.

Never even heard of this, or sexual staring but that one sounds pretty self explanatory, guessing it's looking at cleavage or something and continuing after it's clear you are making someone uncomfortable?

Dingu

4,893 posts

59 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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Decky_Q said:
So what is staring intimately? And how can it be intimate if its across a train carriage.

Never even heard of this, or sexual staring but that one sounds pretty self explanatory, guessing it's looking at cleavage or something and continuing after it's clear you are making someone uncomfortable?
Essentially what you describe in the second paragraph. I was just too lazy to describe it smile

General Price

6,307 posts

212 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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I miss read the title.

Came in to tell you.Just ignore it,it's only a bird.

laugh

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

136 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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Time to dominate the stares?

otolith

68,715 posts

233 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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I guess “stop being a pervy letchy weirdo nonce when you’re obviously making someone uncomfortable” would be a bit wordy?